Hi all,

I've just got this Golf Mk 4 TDI SE 100 which was quite a big purchase for
me, and so forgive my excitement.

I feel a bit of a traitor getting rid of the '94 Mk 3 which has been a
good friend, but I think it was the sensible thing to do, with the leaking
crank case seal and so on.

Anyway, all seems well so far (touch wood) but the stereo is pretty much
stuffed. The only real sound comes from the driver's door speaker, I can
get a little out of the passenger door (a bit distorted) and nothing out
of the rear speakers.

My stepson had a look this afternoon and was surprised that although there
are 4 pairs of wires leaving the stereo, they plug into a connector from
which only 2 pairs emerge. He wondered if that was normal or if there was
a hidden manual fader like the little joystick I used to have in my Escort
........sigh.

Any ideas what might be going on here?

Another quick question, I only got the one key with the car, a rectangular
remote with a spring loaded metal key, and being a bit worried about
relying on batteries, I wondered:

Can you centrally lock and unlock purely mechanically (I haven't managed
it yet)?

And is a spare (mechanical) key, presumably from VW, frighteningly
expensive?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Cheers.





All the best,
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Hi all,

I've just got this Golf Mk 4 TDI SE 100 which was quite a big purchase for
me, and so forgive my excitement.

I feel a bit of a traitor getting rid of the '94 Mk 3 which has been a
good friend, but I think it was the sensible thing to do, with the leaking
crank case seal and so on.

Anyway, all seems well so far (touch wood) but the stereo is pretty much
stuffed. The only real sound comes from the driver's door speaker, I can
get a little out of the passenger door (a bit distorted) and nothing out
of the rear speakers.

My stepson had a look this afternoon and was surprised that although there
are 4 pairs of wires leaving the stereo, they plug into a connector from
which only 2 pairs emerge. He wondered if that was normal or if there was
a hidden manual fader like the little joystick I used to have in my Escort
.......sigh.

Any ideas what might be going on here?

Another quick question, I only got the one key with the car, a rectangular
remote with a spring loaded metal key, and being a bit worried about
relying on batteries, I wondered:

Can you centrally lock and unlock purely mechanically (I haven't managed
it yet)?

And is a spare (mechanical) key, presumably from VW, frighteningly
expensive?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Cheers.


You got no rear doorspeakers and there are no wires , buy a speaker kit from
the dealer it got all the wires and bits and pieces you need to look it
professional
for about 75 euros



--
Arrie

Performance Bikes: The Navigator eats corners and spits out rocks afterwards

Angus Manwaring wrote:
Hi all,



Anyway, all seems well so far (touch wood) but the stereo is pretty much
stuffed. The only real sound comes from the driver's door speaker, I can
get a little out of the passenger door (a bit distorted) and nothing out
of the rear speakers.

My stepson had a look this afternoon and was surprised that although there
are 4 pairs of wires leaving the stereo, they plug into a connector from
which only 2 pairs emerge. He wondered if that was normal or if there was
a hidden manual fader like the little joystick I used to have in my Escort
.......sigh.

Is it the original stereo? Does the wiring look original (2 ISO
connectors
(http://www.nexxia.co.uk/Car_Stereo_f...Connectors.htm,
look at PC3-08)? have the rear speakers been robbed?

There's no seperate fader control as standard. It's all done in the
stereo- probably a VW Beta or Gamma as standard.

Any ideas what might be going on here?


Maybe there's a connector dropped off? Maybe someone's hacked it about a
bit to fit an aftermarket head unit.

Another quick question, I only got the one key with the car, a rectangular
remote with a spring loaded metal key, and being a bit worried about
relying on batteries, I wondered:

Can you centrally lock and unlock purely mechanically (I haven't managed
it yet)?


Yes.

And is a spare (mechanical) key, presumably from VW, frighteningly
expensive?


From VW or an auto locksmith, at least £90 IME. It has an immobiliser
chip that needs programming to the dash ECU if you want to start the car
with it, which seems desireable ;-).

On 19-Jan-08 19:58:40, Arrie said
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You got no rear doorspeakers and there are no wires , buy a speaker kit from
the dealer it got all the wires and bits and pieces you need to look it
professional
for about 75 euros

Hmm.... I hadn't though of that.

To the untrained eye, (mine) it has got speakers. Its got the circular
meshes in the back doors, with a kind of hex pattern in there if you look
at the right angle and tweeters above that near the opening lever handles.

Your saying these are all empty?

I hope not!






All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html

On 19-Jan-08 20:23:18, Chris Bartram said
Angus Manwaring wrote:
Hi all,



Is it the original stereo? Does the wiring look original (2 ISO
connectors
(http://www.nexxia.co.uk/Car_Stereo_f...Connectors.htm,
look at PC3-08)? have the rear speakers been robbed?

There's no seperate fader control as standard. It's all done in the
stereo- probably a VW Beta or Gamma as standard.

We don't think its original, it a Sony with lots of horrible lights. If it
was the stereo that was broken I'd happily buy another for 75 quid, but it
seems the problem is the with the passenger door speaker and the
(nonexistent?) rear speakers. So its going to probably need some fiddling
around with - not my strong point.

My stepson is kindly coming over for another look and we'll look at that
webpage.


From VW or an auto locksmith, at least £90 IME. It has an immobiliser
chip that needs programming to the dash ECU if you want to start the car
with it, which seems desireable ;-).

Yes indeed.


Somebody has very kindly offered me his old key, but I'd need to get it
recoded an rebladed - would that be a significant saving do you reckon?


All the best,
Angus Manwaring. (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html

Angus Manwaring wrote:

On 19-Jan-08 20:23:18, Chris Bartram said
Angus Manwaring wrote:
Hi all,



Is it the original stereo? Does the wiring look original (2 ISO
connectors
(http://www.nexxia.co.uk/Car_Stereo_f...Connectors.htm,
look at PC3-08)? have the rear speakers been robbed?

There's no seperate fader control as standard. It's all done in the
stereo- probably a VW Beta or Gamma as standard.

We don't think its original, it a Sony with lots of horrible lights. If it
was the stereo that was broken I'd happily buy another for 75 quid, but it
seems the problem is the with the passenger door speaker and the
(nonexistent?) rear speakers. So its going to probably need some fiddling
around with - not my strong point.

Eurgh!

Sounds like someone has bodged the head unit swap.

Given that an SE would have been fitted with a VW Gamma as standard, I
don't see why they'd change it in the first place.
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You got no rear doorspeakers and there are no wires , buy a speaker kit
from
the dealer it got all the wires and bits and pieces you need to look it
professional
for about 75 euros

Hmm.... I hadn't though of that.

To the untrained eye, (mine) it has got speakers. Its got the circular
meshes in the back doors, with a kind of hex pattern in there if you look
at the right angle and tweeters above that near the opening lever handles.

Your saying these are all empty?

I hope not!







Pop the door card off and have a quick look and you'll have a better odea of
whats going on.

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Angus Manwaring wrote:

On 19-Jan-08 20:23:18, Chris Bartram said
Angus Manwaring wrote:
Hi all,



Is it the original stereo? Does the wiring look original (2 ISO
connectors
(http://www.nexxia.co.uk/Car_Stereo_f...Connectors.htm,
look at PC3-08)? have the rear speakers been robbed?

There's no seperate fader control as standard. It's all done in the
stereo- probably a VW Beta or Gamma as standard.

We don't think its original, it a Sony with lots of horrible lights. If
it
was the stereo that was broken I'd happily buy another for 75 quid, but
it
seems the problem is the with the passenger door speaker and the
(nonexistent?) rear speakers. So its going to probably need some fiddling
around with - not my strong point.

Eurgh!

Sounds like someone has bodged the head unit swap.

Given that an SE would have been fitted with a VW Gamma as standard, I
don't see why they'd change it in the first place.


Simple enough reason enough Steve the gamma is not a totally crap HU its
just a bit weak chucking out a poor figures. So for someone who required a
bit better quality sound they change HU, in this case someone mucked it up.

To OP: Once you have it all sorted I suggest a nice Becker HU or if you want
something a bit more flash an Alpine HU, the beckers IMO look a lot of
factory and have good features. Get some new speakers ... if you going to
get and amp make sure you amp the speakers from new.

SteveH wrote:


Sounds like someone has bodged the head unit swap.

Given that an SE would have been fitted with a VW Gamma as standard, I
don't see why they'd change it in the first place.
The Gamma is perfectly good, and even the Beta isn't too bad. It does
sound like someone's butchered the wiring.

James wrote:

Given that an SE would have been fitted with a VW Gamma as standard, I
don't see why they'd change it in the first place.


Simple enough reason enough Steve the gamma is not a totally crap HU its
just a bit weak chucking out a poor figures. So for someone who required a
bit better quality sound they change HU, in this case someone mucked it up.

Personally, I found the Gamma to be absolutely fine. Plenty loud enough,
easy to use and, most importantly, understated, so it never attracted
unwanted attention.

Conveniently, it was a cassette HU, too, which made iPod connection much
easier.

I wish I had a Gamma in my B6 - the B6 head unit is nowhere near as
good.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #