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Poor VW Bora TDI 115 mpg during cold ambient temperatures.



 
 
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Old January 18th 06, 06:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.vw.watercooled
Messiah
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Default Poor VW Bora TDI 115 mpg during cold ambient temperatures.

Apologies to anyone who has read this question in
rec.autos.makers.watercooled but I thought I might get a better
response from UK VW owners.

I've just returned from a holiday skiing in France. During the
outgoing journey (in very cold conditions) I noticed the car was
returning much lower mpg than in the UK (typically about 10 mpg lower).
On the journey back I monitored the mpg and found that when the
ambient temperature was at or below 0 degrees Celsius the mpg would be
around 40-45 but when the temperature rose by just 2 degrees the mpg
would increase to 50-55. This was confirmed by the mpg meter. The
lowest mpg figures were returned when travelling through a cold flat
section of Northern France which is at sea level. The average was
taken over hundreds of miles not a short distance where the car could
be going up or down a gradient. We travelled at a constant speed
(approx 80mph). We bought fuel from various service stations but the
variations in mpg were not related to where be bought the fuel. We
travelled non-stop; the car remained hot for the entire journey and did
not go through warm-up and cool-down cycles. Once we got back to the UK
(a blistering 7 degrees), the economy has been excellent and I'm still
using the same diesel that was in the car when it was running
inefficiently.

I can fully appreciate that cars use more fuel in winter due to heat
loss, viscosity of the oil, friction of bearings, differential, gearbox
etc but I cannot believe that such an insignificant change in
temperature would have such a dramatic change in mpg.

Has anyone noticed this? Has my car got a fault with the ECU or should
it inject more fuel when the ambient temperature drops below 0?

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Old January 20th 06, 07:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.vw.watercooled
RJLSD
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Default Poor VW Bora TDI 115 mpg during cold ambient temperatures.

Not sure if this is relevant but I have a Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi with
known dodgy (unbadged replacement sensor) MAF unit. Very definite over
fueling in sub-zero coditions, black smoke and trails. Disconnect MAF -
no smoke but lower power. Fuel economy 10% better with unit disconnected
and system running on default values (presumably). Sounds like you have
something similar going on.

Messiah wrote:
Apologies to anyone who has read this question in
rec.autos.makers.watercooled but I thought I might get a better
response from UK VW owners.

I've just returned from a holiday skiing in France. During the
outgoing journey (in very cold conditions) I noticed the car was
returning much lower mpg than in the UK (typically about 10 mpg lower).
On the journey back I monitored the mpg and found that when the
ambient temperature was at or below 0 degrees Celsius the mpg would be
around 40-45 but when the temperature rose by just 2 degrees the mpg
would increase to 50-55. This was confirmed by the mpg meter. The
lowest mpg figures were returned when travelling through a cold flat
section of Northern France which is at sea level. The average was
taken over hundreds of miles not a short distance where the car could
be going up or down a gradient. We travelled at a constant speed
(approx 80mph). We bought fuel from various service stations but the
variations in mpg were not related to where be bought the fuel. We
travelled non-stop; the car remained hot for the entire journey and did
not go through warm-up and cool-down cycles. Once we got back to the UK
(a blistering 7 degrees), the economy has been excellent and I'm still
using the same diesel that was in the car when it was running
inefficiently.

I can fully appreciate that cars use more fuel in winter due to heat
loss, viscosity of the oil, friction of bearings, differential, gearbox
etc but I cannot believe that such an insignificant change in
temperature would have such a dramatic change in mpg.

Has anyone noticed this? Has my car got a fault with the ECU or should
it inject more fuel when the ambient temperature drops below 0?


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Old January 21st 06, 08:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.vw.watercooled
Messiah
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Default Poor VW Bora TDI 115 mpg during cold ambient temperatures.

Very interesting. I think the sensor on my car was replaced (by the
previous owner) so perhaps he used a non VW part. Thanks for the
information, I'm going to do some investigation.

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Old January 23rd 06, 12:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.vw.watercooled
Messiah
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Default Poor VW Bora TDI 115 mpg during cold ambient temperatures.

I've looked through the receipts I was given with the car and the
sensor was replaced by a VW dealer. It seems unlikely for them to use
a non geniune part but I can be certain.

 




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