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| uk.rec.cars.vw.watercooled (VW Water-Cooled Cars) (uk.rec.cars.vw.watercooled) |
| Tags: 115, ambient, bora, cold, during, mpg, poor, tdi, temperatures |
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Apologies to anyone who has read this question in
rec.autos.makers.watercooled but I thought I might get a better response from UK VW owners. I've just returned from a holiday skiing in France. During the outgoing journey (in very cold conditions) I noticed the car was returning much lower mpg than in the UK (typically about 10 mpg lower). On the journey back I monitored the mpg and found that when the ambient temperature was at or below 0 degrees Celsius the mpg would be around 40-45 but when the temperature rose by just 2 degrees the mpg would increase to 50-55. This was confirmed by the mpg meter. The lowest mpg figures were returned when travelling through a cold flat section of Northern France which is at sea level. The average was taken over hundreds of miles not a short distance where the car could be going up or down a gradient. We travelled at a constant speed (approx 80mph). We bought fuel from various service stations but the variations in mpg were not related to where be bought the fuel. We travelled non-stop; the car remained hot for the entire journey and did not go through warm-up and cool-down cycles. Once we got back to the UK (a blistering 7 degrees), the economy has been excellent and I'm still using the same diesel that was in the car when it was running inefficiently. I can fully appreciate that cars use more fuel in winter due to heat loss, viscosity of the oil, friction of bearings, differential, gearbox etc but I cannot believe that such an insignificant change in temperature would have such a dramatic change in mpg. Has anyone noticed this? Has my car got a fault with the ECU or should it inject more fuel when the ambient temperature drops below 0? |
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Not sure if this is relevant but I have a Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi with
known dodgy (unbadged replacement sensor) MAF unit. Very definite over fueling in sub-zero coditions, black smoke and trails. Disconnect MAF - no smoke but lower power. Fuel economy 10% better with unit disconnected and system running on default values (presumably). Sounds like you have something similar going on. Messiah wrote: Apologies to anyone who has read this question in rec.autos.makers.watercooled but I thought I might get a better response from UK VW owners. I've just returned from a holiday skiing in France. During the outgoing journey (in very cold conditions) I noticed the car was returning much lower mpg than in the UK (typically about 10 mpg lower). On the journey back I monitored the mpg and found that when the ambient temperature was at or below 0 degrees Celsius the mpg would be around 40-45 but when the temperature rose by just 2 degrees the mpg would increase to 50-55. This was confirmed by the mpg meter. The lowest mpg figures were returned when travelling through a cold flat section of Northern France which is at sea level. The average was taken over hundreds of miles not a short distance where the car could be going up or down a gradient. We travelled at a constant speed (approx 80mph). We bought fuel from various service stations but the variations in mpg were not related to where be bought the fuel. We travelled non-stop; the car remained hot for the entire journey and did not go through warm-up and cool-down cycles. Once we got back to the UK (a blistering 7 degrees), the economy has been excellent and I'm still using the same diesel that was in the car when it was running inefficiently. I can fully appreciate that cars use more fuel in winter due to heat loss, viscosity of the oil, friction of bearings, differential, gearbox etc but I cannot believe that such an insignificant change in temperature would have such a dramatic change in mpg. Has anyone noticed this? Has my car got a fault with the ECU or should it inject more fuel when the ambient temperature drops below 0? |
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Very interesting. I think the sensor on my car was replaced (by the
previous owner) so perhaps he used a non VW part. Thanks for the information, I'm going to do some investigation. |
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I've looked through the receipts I was given with the car and the
sensor was replaced by a VW dealer. It seems unlikely for them to use a non geniune part but I can be certain. |
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