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I have been using Mobil 1 oil, 0W-40 grade, in my '96 2.4 Diesel
Transporter, almost since new. Originally, this oil satisfied VW specs 500.00 and 505.00, as recommended in the handbook for this vehicle. Over the last few years, formulations of this oil claim testing to VW 502.00, 503.01 and 505.00. I understand that 502.00 supercedes 500.00, and that 503.01 relates to longer drain intervals with "smart monitoring" of driving patterns. Interestingly, I came across a web site which claims that this newer formulation must _not_ be used in pre-2000 vehicles, such as mine. According to a discussion at http://tinyurl.com/d9ph3 "Note: Engine oils according to VW standards 503 00, 503 01, 506 00 and 506 01 must not be filled in vehicles up to model year 2000 (Y). " and "Elsewhere in VW literature it states using 50300, 50301 oils can cause engine damage in engines they are not recommended for. ie pre 2001" Most 0W-40 grade oils these days seem to include VW 503.01. Google doesn't pull up any confirmation of this claim. Can anyone cast more light on this, and/or any possible reasons why it would be so? John |
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I have been using Mobil 1 oil, 0W-40 grade, in my '96 2.4 Diesel Transporter, almost since new. Originally, this oil satisfied VW specs 500.00 and 505.00, as recommended in the handbook for this vehicle. Over the last few years, formulations of this oil claim testing to VW 502.00, 503.01 and 505.00. I understand that 502.00 supercedes 500.00, and that 503.01 relates to longer drain intervals with "smart monitoring" of driving patterns. Interestingly, I came across a web site which claims that this newer formulation must _not_ be used in pre-2000 vehicles, such as mine. According to a discussion at http://tinyurl.com/d9ph3 "Note: Engine oils according to VW standards 503 00, 503 01, 506 00 and 506 01 must not be filled in vehicles up to model year 2000 (Y). " and "Elsewhere in VW literature it states using 50300, 50301 oils can cause engine damage in engines they are not recommended for. ie pre 2001" Most 0W-40 grade oils these days seem to include VW 503.01. Google doesn't pull up any confirmation of this claim. Can anyone cast more light on this, and/or any possible reasons why it would be so? In the absence of any further info (despite my continued looking), I'm going to go with my hunch on this, and assume that the person I quoted above got it wrong when they concluded (in a part I didn't quote) that current Mobil 1 0W-40 is unsuitable for pre-2001 VWs. I'm getting a clear impression that VW means us to use 502 00 oils in pre-2001 cars, and 503 01 for later models. The quoted VW warning then means that I should avoid 503 01 oils, but only if they don't also meet 502 00 (and the Diesel-specific 505 00 as well in my case). John |
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