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wrote in message ... Apparently on date Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:07:03 -0000, "Doki" said: "Carl Gibbs" wrote in message ... "Doki" wrote in message ... The Golf's playing up. Must be because I've polished it. When the oil's warmed up to 80 odd or so, the oil pressure lamp comes on if the engine's allowed to idle. Rev it at all, and it goes back off. I've previously had the buzzer come on a couple of times during normal driving, (ie, above a couple of thousand revs, oil not stinking hot and not cornering like a loon) but it's always gone off after a second. Oil level is fine. Pointers on whether this sounds like oil pump, dodgy electronics or the bottom end of the engine dying would be nice. Have you changed the oil recently? Yep. Not myself. My dad decided to change the oil for the stuff he puts in his jag without telling me to see if it made any difference to the buzzing that happened before. ****ing hell. That's like a sentence written by Peter of cinquecento fame... Could be the pump, could be the pickup - have you given the sump a whack recently? As Carl said it could just be a dodgy sensor. I would just go for trial and error until it was fixed, but someone with a bit more knowledge may be able to help! Sump is new and unbanged. As for the buzzer - wouldnt worry about it. My main aim when I used to borrow my sisters Polo was to get that buzzer going. The little thing just kept going (with knackered head gasket) ![]() I reckon it's worthwhile getting a gauge as it seems the sensing system can play up. I got one for fifteen quid in the summer, including the hose and connector. It just plugs in where the sender goes. You get a more realistic idea of what's really happening with a gauge. Be aware that these things are only measuring oil pressure above the pump itself. If there is a lot of wear in the main bearings, oil will pour through and while the pump can maintain pressure at the gauge, rather less is making it all the way up to the overhead cam, etc. Whacking up a grade of oil works to compensate for wear in both main bearings and pump rotor vanes so it you want a cheap solution, use more viscous oil. This will definitely wear the pump out faster but can improve oil retention at a typical cost of higher engine friction (and therefore heat.) The problem can also be too high a pressure - this happens when the pressure relief valve sticks shut and the pressure goes too high. You can tell with a gauge, obviously. There are apparently 2 senders on the Golf. One for oil pressure dropping below 2.something bar above 2100 revs, and one for pressure dropping below 0.3 bar at lower revs. I suppose the 0.3 bar one could be playing up a bit. The intermittent pressure drops at decent revs are what I don't get. |
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"Doki" wrote in message ... The Golf's playing up. Must be because I've polished it. When the oil's warmed up to 80 odd or so, the oil pressure lamp comes on if the engine's allowed to idle. Rev it at all, and it goes back off. I've previously had the buzzer come on a couple of times during normal driving, (ie, above a couple of thousand revs, oil not stinking hot and not cornering like a loon) but it's always gone off after a second. Oil level is fine. Pointers on whether this sounds like oil pump, dodgy electronics or the bottom end of the engine dying would be nice. pull the buzzer and yank the bulb |
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"Ronny" wrote in message ... "Ronny" wrote in message ... "Doki" wrote in message ... The Golf's playing up. Must be because I've polished it. When the oil's warmed up to 80 odd or so, the oil pressure lamp comes on if the engine's allowed to idle. Rev it at all, and it goes back off. I've previously had the buzzer come on a couple of times during normal driving, (ie, above a couple of thousand revs, oil not stinking hot and not cornering like a loon) but it's always gone off after a second. Oil level is fine. Pointers on whether this sounds like oil pump, dodgy electronics or the bottom end of the engine dying would be nice. Doki, do you want another one? I know of a Mintish one just lapsed MOT H reg 400 quid. 17" rims not modded at all, bodywork is stunning, black, 2.0 8v needs handbrake cable, but drives fine. I got some pics if anyone else is interested. Ronny Pics http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery2/v/...bum/?g2_page=3 looks damn tidy, i really like that! |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... Maybe the gauze over the pick-up is clogged. That reduces the flow at all engine speeds and needs the sump taken off to check - so it never gets done until the bearings or something else fails. It's had a new sump recently due to a pinhole in the old one, so it'll be easy to get off. Going to fir a new pump this weekend. |
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"Ronny" wrote in message ... 17" rims not modded at all, bodywork is stunning, black, 2.0 8v needs handbrake cable, but drives fine. I got some pics if anyone else is interested. Ronny Pics http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery2/v/...bum/?g2_page=3 looks damn tidy, i really like that! It does, similar shade of black to mine, unfortunately mines meant to be red but she is getting blacker faster than I can clean her with the amount of salt about on the roads at the minute :/ -- Jon B real email to usenet at jonbradbury dot com |
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Doki wrote:
"Carl Gibbs" wrote in message ... "Doki" wrote in message ... The Golf's playing up. Must be because I've polished it. When the oil's warmed up to 80 odd or so, the oil pressure lamp comes on if the engine's allowed to idle. Rev it at all, and it goes back off. I've previously had the buzzer come on a couple of times during normal driving, (ie, above a couple of thousand revs, oil not stinking hot and not cornering like a loon) but it's always gone off after a second. Oil level is fine. Pointers on whether this sounds like oil pump, dodgy electronics or the bottom end of the engine dying would be nice. Have you changed the oil recently? Yep. Not myself. My dad decided to change the oil for the stuff he puts in his jag without telling me to see if it made any difference to the buzzing that happened before. ****ing hell. That's like a sentence written by Peter of cinquecento fame... Might be worth picking up the right oil for the Golf depending on what he uses in the Jag semis? Fully? Could be a bit thin now for an older golf. The official Quantum is cheap enough from the dealers and even cheaper from GSF etc. A reasonably garage should have a proper guage they can plug in the oil sensor position to check what pressure the pump is giving to eliminate pump or switch.... -- Jon B real email to usenet at jonbradbury dot com |
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"Jon B" wrote in message news:1h6wgxa.1585wp61y1sivyN%black.hole@jonbradbur y.com... Doki wrote: "Carl Gibbs" wrote in message ... "Doki" wrote in message ... The Golf's playing up. Must be because I've polished it. When the oil's warmed up to 80 odd or so, the oil pressure lamp comes on if the engine's allowed to idle. Rev it at all, and it goes back off. I've previously had the buzzer come on a couple of times during normal driving, (ie, above a couple of thousand revs, oil not stinking hot and not cornering like a loon) but it's always gone off after a second. Oil level is fine. Pointers on whether this sounds like oil pump, dodgy electronics or the bottom end of the engine dying would be nice. Have you changed the oil recently? Yep. Not myself. My dad decided to change the oil for the stuff he puts in his jag without telling me to see if it made any difference to the buzzing that happened before. ****ing hell. That's like a sentence written by Peter of cinquecento fame... Might be worth picking up the right oil for the Golf depending on what he uses in the Jag semis? Fully? Could be a bit thin now for an older golf. The official Quantum is cheap enough from the dealers and even cheaper from GSF etc. A reasonably garage should have a proper guage they can plug in the oil sensor position to check what pressure the pump is giving to eliminate pump or switch.... The oil was 10w40. The oil my dad took out was 10w40 Quantum... |
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Doki wrote:
"Jon B" wrote in message news:1h6wgxa.1585wp61y1sivyN%black.hole@jonbradbur y.com... Might be worth picking up the right oil for the Golf depending on what he uses in the Jag semis? Fully? Could be a bit thin now for an older golf. The official Quantum is cheap enough from the dealers and even cheaper from GSF etc. A reasonably garage should have a proper guage they can plug in the oil sensor position to check what pressure the pump is giving to eliminate pump or switch.... The oil was 10w40. The oil my dad took out was 10w40 Quantum... Ah ok should be ok then, just checking that you hadn't put in thin mobil 1 in something used to a thicker multigrade. -- Jon B real email to usenet at jonbradbury dot com |
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"Ronny" wrote in message ... Doki, do you want another one? I know of a Mintish one just lapsed MOT H reg 400 quid. 17" rims not modded at all, bodywork is stunning, black, 2.0 8v needs handbrake cable, but drives fine. I got some pics if anyone else is interested. Ronny Pics http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery2/v/...bum/?g2_page=3 Damn! If I'd seen that yesterday evening I would've offered for that rather than the Civic VTi I just picked up. That looks real clean. Still available for £400? Chris - karenDOT christiaanAT btinternetDOT com (wondering how long it'll take to put VTi on ebay!) |
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Got a decent '90 PB 8v lump lying around here doing nothing if you need it.
Chris "Doki" wrote in message ... "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... Maybe the gauze over the pick-up is clogged. That reduces the flow at all engine speeds and needs the sump taken off to check - so it never gets done until the bearings or something else fails. It's had a new sump recently due to a pinhole in the old one, so it'll be easy to get off. Going to fir a new pump this weekend. |
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