Hi,
Just a quick question, about a gearbox.
Why would a gearbox be hard to get into 1st and 2nd gear, when the engine
and gearbox is cold, but within a few miles of a journey, its as smooth as
as silk ?

Thanks :-)

PS. Its a mark 3 1994, new clutch fitted, gearbox oil replaced.

"VW Internet" wrote in message
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Hi,
Just a quick question, about a gearbox.
Why would a gearbox be hard to get into 1st and 2nd gear, when the engine
and gearbox is cold, but within a few miles of a journey, its as smooth as
as silk ?

Thanks :-)

In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
PS. Its a mark 3 1994, new clutch fitted, gearbox oil replaced.

"VW Internet" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Just a quick question, about a gearbox.
Why would a gearbox be hard to get into 1st and 2nd gear, when the engine
and gearbox is cold, but within a few miles of a journey, its as smooth as
as silk ?


Kind of normal. Use RedLine oil and it gets better.


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Hi Eduardo,
I believe the link that joins the gear stick to the gearbox
was cleaned, and it greatly improved it.
Do you thinks the gearbox is ok ?

Thanks


"Eduardo K." wrote in message
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In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
PS. Its a mark 3 1994, new clutch fitted, gearbox oil replaced.

"VW Internet" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Just a quick question, about a gearbox.
Why would a gearbox be hard to get into 1st and 2nd gear, when the
engine
and gearbox is cold, but within a few miles of a journey, its as smooth
as
as silk ?


Kind of normal. Use RedLine oil and it gets better.


--
Eduardo K. | To put a pipe in byte mode,
http://www.carfun.cl | type PIPE_TYPE_BYTE.
http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)

In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Hi Eduardo,
I believe the link that joins the gear stick to the gearbox
was cleaned, and it greatly improved it.
Do you thinks the gearbox is ok ?

Yep. Every year I read the same threads about hard to shift when cold. Mostly
around January/February

Redline oil seems to improve the cold shifting a lot. I would not really
know... where I live, 32F is as cold as it ever gets, and thats
only a couple of weeks a year.



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http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)

Eduardo,
Are u in spain?

"Eduardo K." wrote in message
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In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Hi Eduardo,
I believe the link that joins the gear stick to the
gearbox
was cleaned, and it greatly improved it.
Do you thinks the gearbox is ok ?

Yep. Every year I read the same threads about hard to shift when cold.
Mostly
around January/February

Redline oil seems to improve the cold shifting a lot. I would not really
know... where I live, 32F is as cold as it ever gets, and thats
only a couple of weeks a year.



--
Eduardo K. | To put a pipe in byte mode,
http://www.carfun.cl | type PIPE_TYPE_BYTE.
http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)

In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Eduardo,
Are u in spain?

Nopes. Santiago de Chile



"Eduardo K." wrote in message
...
In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Hi Eduardo,
I believe the link that joins the gear stick to the
gearbox
was cleaned, and it greatly improved it.
Do you thinks the gearbox is ok ?

Yep. Every year I read the same threads about hard to shift when cold.
Mostly
around January/February

Redline oil seems to improve the cold shifting a lot. I would not really
know... where I live, 32F is as cold as it ever gets, and thats
only a couple of weeks a year.



--
Eduardo K. | To put a pipe in byte mode,
http://www.carfun.cl | type PIPE_TYPE_BYTE.
http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)




--
Eduardo K. | To put a pipe in byte mode,
http://www.carfun.cl | type PIPE_TYPE_BYTE.
http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)

"Eduardo K." wrote in message
...
In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Eduardo,
Are u in spain?

Nopes. Santiago de Chile



"Eduardo K." wrote in message
...
In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Hi Eduardo,
I believe the link that joins the gear stick to the
gearbox
was cleaned, and it greatly improved it.
Do you thinks the gearbox is ok ?

Yep. Every year I read the same threads about hard to shift when cold.
Mostly
around January/February

Redline oil seems to improve the cold shifting a lot. I would not really
know... where I live, 32F is as cold as it ever gets, and thats
only a couple of weeks a year.



--
Eduardo K. | To put a pipe in byte mode,
http://www.carfun.cl | type PIPE_TYPE_BYTE.
http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)




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Eduardo K. | To put a pipe in byte mode,
http://www.carfun.cl | type PIPE_TYPE_BYTE.
http://e.nn.cl | (from the Visual C++ help file.)

I used to have a British Leyland Maestro with a VW gearbox that was really
horrible on gearchanges when cold but improved considerably when warm,
though it never became slick. I have a Golf and a Polo with similar
gearboxes and of similar ages to each other. The Polo change is beautiful,
slick and easy, with the Golf always sticky and hesitant to engage. These
situations have not markedly changed all the time I owned/ have owned any of
the vehicles, with increasing mileage seemingly irrelevant to these aspects.

Possible differences are manufacturing differences in tolerances box to box.
Differences in the linkages making the boxes feel different. Differences in
oil viscosity/ type box to box.

You may find there is a slight difference made in the "feel" of the box by
using different oil. You may also find a difference in the longevity of the
box if you move away from the declared specification for the oil.

As you do not mention any clashing of the gears when engaging them I assume
we can discount clutch drag caused by oil deposit on the plates. If this is
the case then my advice is to grin and bear it. Nothing I tried has made a
h'apporth of difference to the state of play, but if you want to play around
and experiment...................

Regards

Pilgarlick

Pilgarlick Hi,
The gears dont clash or clunk.
I was looking at the redline oil that was suggested, and might buy some and
try it.
I will need someone to drain the existing oil, and then replace it with the
redline.
The new oil was replaced 3 weeks ago..

Thanks


I used to have a British Leyland Maestro with a VW gearbox that was really
horrible on gearchanges when cold but improved considerably when warm,
though it never became slick. I have a Golf and a Polo with similar
gearboxes and of similar ages to each other. The Polo change is beautiful,
slick and easy, with the Golf always sticky and hesitant to engage. These
situations have not markedly changed all the time I owned/ have owned any
of
the vehicles, with increasing mileage seemingly irrelevant to these
aspects.

Possible differences are manufacturing differences in tolerances box to
box.
Differences in the linkages making the boxes feel different. Differences
in
oil viscosity/ type box to box.

You may find there is a slight difference made in the "feel" of the box by
using different oil. You may also find a difference in the longevity of
the
box if you move away from the declared specification for the oil.

As you do not mention any clashing of the gears when engaging them I
assume
we can discount clutch drag caused by oil deposit on the plates. If this
is
the case then my advice is to grin and bear it. Nothing I tried has made a
h'apporth of difference to the state of play, but if you want to play
around
and experiment...................

Regards

Pilgarlick

In article ,
VW Internet wrote:
Pilgarlick Hi,
The gears dont clash or clunk.
I was looking at the redline oil that was suggested, and might buy some and
try it.
I will need someone to drain the existing oil, and then replace it with the
redline.
The new oil was replaced 3 weeks ago..


Maybe they used too heavy oil?

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