Hi, just dropping in from one of the other uk.cars groups.

I've got a question about my Golf GTI. It's a 1990 Mk II 5dr with big
bumpers, and appeared to be reasonably original. I'm a little suspicious
of it now, as I'd been going to sell it, and I've discovered the speedo
is wrong!

The rest of the dash seems correct - the rev counter redlines at 6.250,
the MFA computer is right, the odometer lines up, the speed appears to
be accurate (3,000 RPM is about 63mph - I think that's right for the
GTI, but again I'd like to know, as the gearbox was replaced just before
I got it. It's certainly quick enough). The temperature gauge doesn't
work correctly due to the wiring being a mess - I've been told that this
model of GTI engine has a plastic component in the waterline where the
temp sensors are, and this has been replaced with an earlier metal one
with two sensors and the wiring 'modified' (heh) accordingly.

However, the speedo only goes up to 120. As far as I can tell, a Mk II
GTI should go to 140 (even though the top speed is well under).

I'm not especially worried about the car's originality although I
probably paid more for it on the basis that it had under 100,000 miles -
I bought it on condition and it hasn't let me down, (I knocked a side
trim off one of the wheel arches being careless, and the paint and
panelwork was completely original - it has been sprayed, but I can't
find evidence of bodywork, and it's red and fading so I'm assuming
someone has tried to spray the most faded areas). I'm just wondering if
it would be worth trying to replace the speedo, or if I've got the wrong
dash (and if so, how come it has the right MFA computer and seemingly
the right 'design'). There is a chance the poor thing has been clocked
(I'm beginning to form an intense dislike for any car that has ever
spent time in Newcastle, and will probably make future sellers sign a
statement that the car has never visited anywhere near Gateshead), so
I'm guessing that the car isn't worth the £1,300 I'd advertised it for,
and probably nearer 700 or 800.

Richard, whose past VWs have been a grotty Mk II GTI 3dr that cost £90,
a Jetta Syncro, and a Q-plated GTI 16v, so I don't have much to go on by
way of real, proper GTIs.
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Citroen XM Exclusive - still awaiting repairs. /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,
VW Golf GTI 5dr - lovely, relaxing. 'Car' defined. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::.
1984 Mercedes 200 (W123) - £50 car. FSH, 112K '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia

"Richard Kilpatrick" wrote in message
...
Hi, just dropping in from one of the other uk.cars groups.

I've got a question about my Golf GTI. It's a 1990 Mk II 5dr with big
bumpers, and appeared to be reasonably original. I'm a little suspicious
of it now, as I'd been going to sell it, and I've discovered the speedo
is wrong!

snip

However, the speedo only goes up to 120. As far as I can tell, a Mk II
GTI should go to 140 (even though the top speed is well under).

snip

AFAIK, the GTI Mk2 8v vdo speedo goes to 120. Mine does anyway.
Rob

In message , RJH
writes
AFAIK, the GTI Mk2 8v vdo speedo goes to 120. Mine does anyway.

Ahhh. Different speedo, different graduations? I'll be really, really
relieved if that's what the difference is! There are the two computers,
aren't there. Mine is the kind that has two reset positions.

Richard (off to order a new ns window regulator. The worlds most basic
GTI - no central locking, no electric windows. Just nice, basic
transport. Except for the P alloys. I know they're wrong for the year,
it probably had steel wheels!).
--
306 Cabrio - reliable, topless, fast - yet boring... |\ _,,,---,,_
Citroen XM Exclusive - still awaiting repairs. /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,
VW Golf GTI 5dr - lovely, relaxing. 'Car' defined. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::.
1984 Mercedes 200 (W123) - £50 car. FSH, 112K '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia

RJH wrote:

"Richard Kilpatrick" wrote in message
...
Hi, just dropping in from one of the other uk.cars groups.

I've got a question about my Golf GTI. It's a 1990 Mk II 5dr with big
bumpers, and appeared to be reasonably original. I'm a little suspicious
of it now, as I'd been going to sell it, and I've discovered the speedo
is wrong!

snip

However, the speedo only goes up to 120. As far as I can tell, a Mk II
GTI should go to 140 (even though the top speed is well under).

snip

AFAIK, the GTI Mk2 8v vdo speedo goes to 120. Mine does anyway.
Rob

Depends on the age of the car. They changed them over at roughly the
same time as big bumpers (might have been same time) were introduced to
a 140mph speedo, think they also changed from MotoMeter (SP?) to VDO
gauges as well.
--
Jon

In article ,
says...
The worlds most basic
GTI - no central locking, no electric windows. Just nice, basic
transport. Except for the P alloys. I know they're wrong for the year,
it probably had steel wheels!).

Hah! mine has no central locking, no electric windows, no stereo and no
rear seats :-P

T.

In message , Trooper
writes

Hah! mine has no central locking, no electric windows, no stereo and no
rear seats :-P

Do Siroccos count? (goddam spelling. This is the one my computer thinks
is right).

So, I looked at my dash. My car was registered 01-08-1990, is a big
bumper, but has a VDO dash. I know VW were good for using up bits (I
remember my dad's 1987 Passat Topic - they were meant to be 1.8s, but
they ran out of 1.8 engines so he ended up with a 2.0GL5 engine in it!).

Richard
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Musical suicide - www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,
Work: Icon Publications, Group Sales Manager |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::.
Homepage: http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia

RJH waffled on in a quite bewildering manner to produce...
"Richard Kilpatrick" wrote in message
...
In message , RJH
writes
AFAIK, the GTI Mk2 8v vdo speedo goes to 120. Mine does anyway.

Ahhh. Different speedo, different graduations? I'll be really, really
relieved if that's what the difference is!

I *think* there were 2 makes of speedo fitted to the Golf II gti.
Both went up to 120. I've seen 3, an 89, 90 and 91. All vdo. All 120.

There are the two computers,
aren't there. Mine is the kind that has two reset positions.

Well, one computer, 2 'logs' - trip and cumulative. Same on all of
them, again AFAIK.

Just to confuse matters, my '85 8v has the original speedo and it goes to
230 KM/H..(142? MPH).. VDO one, with the silly (non functioning) economy
gauge in..

--
Pete M.

Golf Gti
Liverpool, Great Britain.

Trooper waffled on in a quite bewildering manner to produce...
In article ,
says...
The worlds most basic
GTI - no central locking, no electric windows. Just nice, basic
transport. Except for the P alloys. I know they're wrong for the
year, it probably had steel wheels!).

Hah! mine has no central locking, no electric windows, no stereo and
no rear seats :-P

No central locking, no electric windows, no sunroof, but it's got tints...
and P alloys ( but I've got the steels)

--
Pete M.

Golf Gti
Liverpool, Great Britain.