I love doing things that conventional wisdom clealry indicates I shouldn't.

Two things happened to the bus of doom recently.

First of all, the exhaust rusted right through at a weld between the
downpipe and the cat.

Cleaned it all up with the wire brush in the grinder (top tool) and fizzed
it all back together with my 30 year old Clarke 160E mig and pub co2 gas.

Then the crank pulley which has been rattling mildly for some time decided I
wasn't listening and started making some proper noise.
Dual mass crank pulley failure is pretty much expected on the HDi engine, so
it seems, and when it does fail, it makes some crazy rythms that Art Blakey
couldn't hope to emulate.

Anyway, price for a new one is about fifty quid out of GSF or Euro.

But, I thought in a moment of sparklingly clear stupidity, how much give is
there in this thing, how much of the vibes are actually being soaked up ?
So, I whipped the pulley off, had another think about it and in similar
fashion to the exhaust mentioned above, made some sparks and fizzed it up
solid with the mig.
So the dual mass pulley is now a single mass pulley with some slightly
charred rubbery bits in the middle (although I did put the fire out by
sporadically dipping it into the barrow of rainwater which I keep out the
back just for such eventualities.)

So, solid crank pulley, no vibe soaking qualities whatsoever.

Has the engine shaken itself to bits ?
Has the alternator / AC pump shaken exploded in a blaze of high frequency
vibration induced torture ?
Did I die in a ball of flames ?

Err, no.

It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite conclusively
( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are having, as the saying
goes, a laugh.

More boring stories from the shed of cheapo repairs next week.

In article ,
Bob Sherunckle wrote:

It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite
conclusively ( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are
having, as the saying goes, a laugh.

More boring stories from the shed of cheapo repairs next week.
Nice one !

--
Terminal_Crazy

Mitch - 1995 Z28 LT1 M6
Lancashire England http://www.sand-hill.freeserve.co.uk/terminal_crazy/

My crank pulley had already been welded up by an enthusiastic welder when I
bought the 306.
I have no idea how as it was solid, but it was noisy as chuff and getting
worse 'til I replaced it with said £50 GSF part.
I needed to replace the cat too, no amount of welding was gonna help it.

If I didn't have a welder there'd be loads of bits to fix for free "if only
I had a welder" but as it is, it hardly ever gets used recently.


Nice bodgery

"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
...
I love doing things that conventional wisdom clealry indicates I shouldn't.

Two things happened to the bus of doom recently.

First of all, the exhaust rusted right through at a weld between the
downpipe and the cat.

Cleaned it all up with the wire brush in the grinder (top tool) and fizzed
it all back together with my 30 year old Clarke 160E mig and pub co2 gas.

Then the crank pulley which has been rattling mildly for some time decided
I wasn't listening and started making some proper noise.
Dual mass crank pulley failure is pretty much expected on the HDi engine,
so it seems, and when it does fail, it makes some crazy rythms that Art
Blakey couldn't hope to emulate.

Anyway, price for a new one is about fifty quid out of GSF or Euro.

But, I thought in a moment of sparklingly clear stupidity, how much give
is there in this thing, how much of the vibes are actually being soaked up
?
So, I whipped the pulley off, had another think about it and in similar
fashion to the exhaust mentioned above, made some sparks and fizzed it up
solid with the mig.
So the dual mass pulley is now a single mass pulley with some slightly
charred rubbery bits in the middle (although I did put the fire out by
sporadically dipping it into the barrow of rainwater which I keep out the
back just for such eventualities.)

So, solid crank pulley, no vibe soaking qualities whatsoever.

Has the engine shaken itself to bits ?
Has the alternator / AC pump shaken exploded in a blaze of high frequency
vibration induced torture ?
Did I die in a ball of flames ?

Err, no.

It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite conclusively
( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are having, as the saying
goes, a laugh.

More boring stories from the shed of cheapo repairs next week.

In article ,
Bob Sherunckle wrote:
It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite
conclusively ( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are
having, as the saying goes, a laugh.


It's quite possible a solid pulley is smoother than a broken harmonic
damper one. But have you compared 'yours' to a good one?

--
*I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Bob Sherunckle wrote:
It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite
conclusively ( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are
having, as the saying goes, a laugh.


It's quite possible a solid pulley is smoother than a broken harmonic
damper one. But have you compared 'yours' to a good one?


God no !

That would mean 'buying' one.

When it eventually breaks, we'll see ;-)

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:27:02 +0100, Bob Sherunckle boggled us with:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob Sherunckle wrote:
It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite
conclusively ( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are
having, as the saying goes, a laugh.


It's quite possible a solid pulley is smoother than a broken harmonic
damper one. But have you compared 'yours' to a good one?


God no !

That would mean 'buying' one.

When it eventually breaks, we'll see ;-)

Might have a long wait. My old 306 had been welded and started making a
noise. Guy I bought it off said the previous owner - his mate, said it
started at about 100k miles. It was noisy when I got it, noisy when I
sold it.. at 169k

--
Mike P

"Mike P" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:27:02 +0100, Bob Sherunckle boggled us with:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob Sherunckle wrote:
It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite
conclusively ( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are
having, as the saying goes, a laugh.


It's quite possible a solid pulley is smoother than a broken harmonic
damper one. But have you compared 'yours' to a good one?


God no !

That would mean 'buying' one.

When it eventually breaks, we'll see ;-)

Might have a long wait. My old 306 had been welded and started making a
noise. Guy I bought it off said the previous owner - his mate, said it
started at about 100k miles. It was noisy when I got it, noisy when I
sold it.. at 169k

--
Mike P


Result ;-)

I think I'll treat it to a new wing next, to replace the wrinkly one that
was on it when I bought it.
Hopefully pick one up in the right colour and bolt it on.

"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
...
I love doing things that conventional wisdom clealry indicates I shouldn't.

Two things happened to the bus of doom recently.

First of all, the exhaust rusted right through at a weld between the
downpipe and the cat.

Cleaned it all up with the wire brush in the grinder (top tool) and fizzed
it all back together with my 30 year old Clarke 160E mig and pub co2 gas.

Then the crank pulley which has been rattling mildly for some time decided
I wasn't listening and started making some proper noise.
Dual mass crank pulley failure is pretty much expected on the HDi engine,
so it seems, and when it does fail, it makes some crazy rythms that Art
Blakey couldn't hope to emulate.

Anyway, price for a new one is about fifty quid out of GSF or Euro.

But, I thought in a moment of sparklingly clear stupidity, how much give
is there in this thing, how much of the vibes are actually being soaked up
?
So, I whipped the pulley off, had another think about it and in similar
fashion to the exhaust mentioned above, made some sparks and fizzed it up
solid with the mig.
So the dual mass pulley is now a single mass pulley with some slightly
charred rubbery bits in the middle (although I did put the fire out by
sporadically dipping it into the barrow of rainwater which I keep out the
back just for such eventualities.)

So, solid crank pulley, no vibe soaking qualities whatsoever.

Has the engine shaken itself to bits ?
Has the alternator / AC pump shaken exploded in a blaze of high frequency
vibration induced torture ?
Did I die in a ball of flames ?

Err, no.

It's smoother than it ever was, which appears to prove quite conclusively
( I would suggest) that Citroen / Peugeot et al are having, as the saying
goes, a laugh.

More boring stories from the shed of cheapo repairs next week.

You my friend are a genius. I enjoyed reading that. I'm sending my car round
to you soon as it's in need of plenty of bodging :-p