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Something someone else has prepped. There may be the odd thing you'd have
done better or differently, but these cars very rarely sell for anything
like the cost of assembling them. FWIW, you wouldn't get me barrelling round
a circuit in a ratty old piece of tin, of uncertain structural strength with
no mods - bare minimum will be better brakes and good shocks IMO. A cage
would be high on my list of priorities as soon as you got to the point of
carrying any speed...

I know what you mean. Naturally before it would be taken near a track it
would have the brakes looked over.
My choices would be: 205, MR2, E30, Ratty 924.

He likes 205s as he has had a couple, but having had a couple of 3
series he reckons they would be too heavy. 924 I could live with.
As I said to Timo, it's useful if you can buy something there's a race
series for and prep to something along those lines if you want to recoup any
kind of resale value.


Probably not looking at resale value in the end, that is why it would
minimally modded.
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"Elder" wrote in message
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What would be good? For me, either something jap or something silly.

Have a look on the Pistonheads classifieds, there's a good selection of
trackday cars that will already have had the work and money spent on them.
Something like this, http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1107034.htm

On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:45:24 +0100, Elder grumbled:

What would be good? For me, either something jap or something silly.

Doesn't have to be too fast, nothing too exotic parts cost wise. My
thoughts were
Tatty Mk1 MR2 with ticket.
Volvo 340 1.7 (usually immaculate due to one giffer owner rwd not as
slow as reckoned, pretty hard to break). Volvo 740 turbo saloon (cheap
because it isn't an estate, will take a manual boost controller for some
extra oomph, rwd). My brother who fancies going halves suggestion was an
Escort SI. Nothing else, just an Escort SI. No other car on the planet
comes close to providing the performance, parts cost and handling per
quid than an Escort SI in his world and he would be happy to trailer it
behind his Shogun. Or maybe a Nova at a push. He has no imagination.

This would be something that would have almost everything inside that
isn't needed for the MOT stripped out plus a couple of speakers and
radio for the times we drive there rather than tow, and a pair of bucket
seats. trackmods would be a fresh pair of shocks and some lower stiffer
springs, plus one box removed from the system and replaced with a length
of pipe, plus a hollowed cat if it pre-92, and a homebrew cold air
intake. Simple mods to free up breather and body roll.

I really like RWD, but for some reason he wants a FWD blue oval.

I got offered another tatty MX-5 with a bit of T&T for £600 a couple of
weeks ago,. It was going to need a bit of sill-welding for to get it
through test but other than that it was ok and would do what you want.

Mike P

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Doesn't have to be too fast, nothing too exotic parts cost wise.
My thoughts were
Tatty Mk1 MR2 with ticket.

This one if you can find one that's not terminally rusty. Which is a
*big* problem. They handle rather well out of the box so you pretty much
don't need to do anything to them for basic track fun.

That was my big worry, I know they can, and the reason for including
them is, for basic fun they don't need as much to handle as say a Volvo
or some other such older small RWD car.

I really like RWD, but for some reason he wants a FWD blue oval.

The heresy...

Yup, and this is from someone who has owned both rwd and front wheel
drive escorts and capris and cortinas/sierras in the past including a
1.6 engined rs2000 MK2 lookalike and a 2 litre cosworth sierra
lookylikey that drove OK for what they were.
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"Elder" wrote in message
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What would be good? For me, either something jap or something silly.

Have a look on the Pistonheads classifieds, there's a good selection of
trackday cars that will already have had the work and money spent on them..
Something like this, http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1107034.htm




Ha, looks nice and well done but was thinking more like £500 for
something tatty with ticket, a dulux paint over, and a couple of hundred
quid ebay for second hand bits like bargain buckets.
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I got offered another tatty MX-5 with a bit of T&T for £600 a couple of
weeks ago,. It was going to need a bit of sill-welding for to get it
through test but other than that it was ok and would do what you want.

Seriously cannot drive one or it would be ideal. Hate that I cannot
drive one, I really do. I really wanted one when I had £4k to spend at
christmas, but once seated I knew it would never have the knee height
arround wheel. It was so gutting, at least today after the drive I know
I could be very, very comfortable in a 911 should I ever be able to
afford to maintain a decent one.
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"Timo Geusch" wrote in message
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Elder writes:

What would be good? For me, either something jap or something silly.

Doesn't have to be too fast, nothing too exotic parts cost wise.
My thoughts were
Tatty Mk1 MR2 with ticket.

This one if you can find one that's not terminally rusty.

I seem to remember you finding them a tad too tame, for track work...

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If you can live with something a bit tatty and FWD, H22a Prelude 2.2 VTi
would be my choice.

I like them, but FWD for a track car seems wrong, even though I know
they can still be fun.

I disagree.

Plenty of decent FWD stuff gets slung round Lydden - 106 GTis etc.

Thing is while plentiful, decent modding/tuning
stuff can be pricey. But it is thought as I like Jap stuff.

And that's the point; they book at 6.7 to 60 out the box, and tend to put up
with loads of abuse - no need to mod to get decent use out of it.

The main thing that isn't cheap is the fuel - they drink it when ragged.

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What would be good? For me, either something jap or something silly.


Doesn't have to be too fast, nothing too exotic parts cost wise.


My brother who fancies going halves suggestion was an Escort SI.

I really like RWD, but for some reason he wants a FWD blue oval.
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I also wanted a Retro track car.
Which I can also use every day if I want.

Golf GTI then.
Yes, the unfashionable MK3 in my case.
Hey, we're all different.

I'll be picking it up tomorrow when I get some insurance sorted out.

Now, where's that event calendar.

Elder wrote:

What would be good? For me, either something jap or something silly.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1028399.htm