Finally found a short while to have another go at that rounded off glow
plug in the 306.

I was out there all of 10 mins before the hailstones came

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Finally found a short while to have another go at that rounded off glow
plug in the 306.

I was out there all of 10 mins before the hailstones came



move south aint been to bad down here

In article , Vamp says...

"Abo" wrote in message
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Finally found a short while to have another go at that rounded off glow
plug in the 306.

I was out there all of 10 mins before the hailstones came



move south aint been to bad down here

Been doing quarry work today. As I drove out, one of our tippers
stopped me. "Missed the rain then", he said. "Yup". Apparently up to
the roundabout 500 yards from where the quarry was, it was raining so
hard you couldn't see 20ft down the road.


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Abo wrote:
Finally found a short while to have another go at that rounded off glow
plug in the 306.

I was out there all of 10 mins before the hailstones came


Well I still didn't manage to get the glowplug out yesterday so earlier
today I did what I chould have done in the first place and bought a deep
hexagonal socket. The little ******* came out no problem. Replacement
fitted, no more smokey starts! Just got a bit wet this time, no hail
today lol

Next job, sort the exhaust out...

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Abo wrote:
Abo wrote:
Finally found a short while to have another go at that rounded off
glow plug in the 306.

I was out there all of 10 mins before the hailstones came


Well I still didn't manage to get the glowplug out yesterday so earlier
today I did what I chould have done in the first place and bought a deep
hexagonal socket. The little ******* came out no problem. Replacement
fitted, no more smokey starts! Just got a bit wet this time, no hail
today lol

And it's still smokey. It must have been ok yesterday because the engine
was still a bit warm. Just tested it now and the smoke was back. I know
it's not oil; it's light in colour and I can smell the chip fat lol

So that's all four glowplugs changed. I suppose one could have failed in
the meantime, is there any way of testing them? Is there anything that
could be causing them to work inefficiently?

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Abo

In article , Abo says...

So that's all four glowplugs changed. I suppose one could have failed in
the meantime, is there any way of testing them? Is there anything that
could be causing them to work inefficiently?

Get the injectors leak tested. Your symptoms are exactly the same as
lorries when the injectors leak. We don't use glowplugs unless it's
like -20C and you have to manually put them on so that excludes them
being a possibility in a lorry.


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Conor wrote:
In article , Abo says...

So that's all four glowplugs changed. I suppose one could have failed in
the meantime, is there any way of testing them? Is there anything that
could be causing them to work inefficiently?

Get the injectors leak tested. Your symptoms are exactly the same as
lorries when the injectors leak. We don't use glowplugs unless it's
like -20C and you have to manually put them on so that excludes them
being a possibility in a lorry.

You know, I'm thinking more that this could be worth looking into. I've
just turned it over from cold a couple of minutes ago and no smoke at
all. So it's possible that they leaked overnight and accumulated enough
fuel to produce smoke when I tried first thing this morning, but not
enough has built up between now and then to smoke on the second start.

In fact now I've typed this... When it first started smoking I'd have a
smokey start first thing in the morning, drive the 130 miles to Lytham,
do a day's work there and not have a smokey start when I set off for
home. After a while I was getting smokey starts when I left Lytham,
that's why I've started messing about with it again, the guys I work
with were starting to take the ****...

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In article , Abo says...

You know, I'm thinking more that this could be worth looking into. I've
just turned it over from cold a couple of minutes ago and no smoke at
all. So it's possible that they leaked overnight and accumulated enough
fuel to produce smoke when I tried first thing this morning, but not
enough has built up between now and then to smoke on the second start.

Well that's pretty much what happens with lorries. When they get a lot
of miles on them, they'll smoke a bit on first startup in a day until
the excess diesel is burned off. The smoke you get is a white/grey in
colour. Either the springs go weak or the needle seat wears.

If the glowplugs check out, that's where I'd be looking next and a
diesel specialist should be able to test your injectors for you
although they'll need removing from the vehicle.



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Conor wrote:
In article , Abo says...

You know, I'm thinking more that this could be worth looking into. I've
just turned it over from cold a couple of minutes ago and no smoke at
all. So it's possible that they leaked overnight and accumulated enough
fuel to produce smoke when I tried first thing this morning, but not
enough has built up between now and then to smoke on the second start.

Well that's pretty much what happens with lorries. When they get a lot
of miles on them, they'll smoke a bit on first startup in a day until
the excess diesel is burned off. The smoke you get is a white/grey in
colour. Either the springs go weak or the needle seat wears.

If the glowplugs check out, that's where I'd be looking next and a
diesel specialist should be able to test your injectors for you
although they'll need removing from the vehicle.

Cheers mate, I'll go down that route when I get chance...

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Conor wrote:
In article , Abo says...

You know, I'm thinking more that this could be worth looking into. I've
just turned it over from cold a couple of minutes ago and no smoke at
all. So it's possible that they leaked overnight and accumulated enough
fuel to produce smoke when I tried first thing this morning, but not
enough has built up between now and then to smoke on the second start.

Well that's pretty much what happens with lorries. When they get a lot
of miles on them, they'll smoke a bit on first startup in a day until
the excess diesel is burned off. The smoke you get is a white/grey in
colour. Either the springs go weak or the needle seat wears.

If the glowplugs check out, that's where I'd be looking next and a
diesel specialist should be able to test your injectors for you
although they'll need removing from the vehicle.

Ok, a quick check in the Haynes manual says the injectors will last
about 60k miles. Car's done 94k so I guess they've done well.

Googling sugests replacements aren't cheap

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