"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
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**start of review**

It's all the car you actually need.

**End of review**


I had a courtesy car once, that was a Skoda Felica, N plate 1.3 LXi - so
pre-VAG I think. I was elated to get my Triumph Acclaim back. That's how
bad it was. It was the worst car I have ever driven by a mile, and the
worst driving experience I've ever had - so I'm including golf carts, lawn
mowers, and Transit vans etc in that. It didn't have one single endearing
feature. If someone had given me it for free I'd have refused it - and I'm
very polite in real life as well.

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Dan B
Clio R27

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I had a courtesy car once, that was a Skoda Felica, N plate 1.3 LXi - so
pre-VAG I think. I was elated to get my Triumph Acclaim back. That's how
bad it was. It was the worst car I have ever driven by a mile, and the
worst driving experience I've ever had - so I'm including golf carts, lawn
mowers, and Transit vans etc in that. It didn't have one single endearing
feature. If someone had given me it for free I'd have refused it - and I'm
very polite in real life as well.

Odd, I really liked the Felicia I had as a courtesy, yes it felt a bit
flabbier than the Favorit that was in getting fixed, but it held the
road just as well, even if it rolled arround as much.
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
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**start of review**

It's all the car you actually need.

**End of review**


I had a courtesy car once, that was a Skoda Felica, N plate 1.3 LXi - so
pre-VAG I think.

Kinda, as I remember; it had some VAG bits but wasn't touted enough.

I was elated to get my Triumph Acclaim back. That's how bad it was. It
was the worst car I have ever driven by a mile, and the worst driving
experience I've ever had - so I'm including golf carts, lawn mowers, and
Transit vans etc in that. It didn't have one single endearing feature.
If someone had given me it for free I'd have refused it - and I'm very
polite in real life as well.

That may be your experience, which may be considered as odd, because they're
not bad machines. It depends on what you want them for. They're not
designed for lateral-g comparisons thrown in with 30 - 70 times against
another front wheel drive supermini, but are designed for people who don't
give a toss about the comparisons other than a nod towards fuel consumption;
instead, they value practicality, taking their elderly parents to the Bingo
and picking up the shopping.

Their opinion of your Clio would be around the same; daft hard ride, cramped
interior, thirsty, stupidly high insurance, horrible dealers.*

*as every Skoda dealership I've ever been to, and that's a lot, has been
pretty much great.

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The DervMan
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*as every Skoda dealership I've ever been to, and that's a lot, has been
pretty much great.

--
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www.dervman.com


That's because, historically they have been fighting an uphill battle.
I hope they're as good as they used to be now that there is some respect
about them.

When the Superb first came out I went to the dealers to see what all the
fuss was about with this big Skoda which cost over 20 grand in some cases,
but made it clear that I wouldn't be buying.
Within minutes of having a look and chatting to the sales guy, I was on a
test drive of around 10 miles in a 2.5 TDI V6 Elegance with all of the toys.
He insisted I had a go just to see how good it was.

Same with the Fabia when that came out too, they practically forced me into
having a go.

An ex work colleague of my brother ran an Estelle way after everyone else
had given up on them. His local dealer eventually gave up on updating
pricing for parts and seeing as he was the only one to ever buy spares, they
came to a fairly unique agreement. "We'll keep all the parts we have for as
long as you have the car - you don't need to buy them all now. And the price
for everything will be a quid."

If that isn't an incentive to keep a car on the road.

Anyway, Skoda dealers have generally had a great reputation.

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That may be your experience, which may be considered as odd, because they're
not bad machines. It depends on what you want them for. They're not
designed for lateral-g comparisons thrown in with 30 - 70 times against
another front wheel drive supermini, but are designed for people who don't
give a toss about the comparisons other than a nod towards fuel consumption;
instead, they value practicality, taking their elderly parents to the Bingo
and picking up the shopping.

If you drive them like a normal hatch they seem gutless.
If you actually use all the revs in all the gears they seem harsh but
make incredible progress. The redline is there for a reason, to be
visited. And it seems to make bugger all difference to fuel economy when
you do.
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says...
An ex work colleague of my brother ran an Estelle way after everyone else
had given up on them. His local dealer eventually gave up on updating
pricing for parts and seeing as he was the only one to ever buy spares, they
came to a fairly unique agreement. "We'll keep all the parts we have for as
long as you have the car - you don't need to buy them all now. And the price
for everything will be a quid."

I'm surprised he got away with that.

When VAG took over, they made dealers officially scrap and return any
stock parts, then they limited order in availability.

And then when people brought in the commie cars for work, they were
advised it was uneconomical to repair, then offer them silly trade ins
against Felicias and Fabias. Then, they had to scrap all the traded in
rear engined cars. No resale, no sending mint one owner low mileage
examples to the skoda museum, just cube them, and deny any knowledge of
their existence on the skoda UK website history section.
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"Elder" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
An ex work colleague of my brother ran an Estelle way after everyone else
had given up on them. His local dealer eventually gave up on updating
pricing for parts and seeing as he was the only one to ever buy spares,
they
came to a fairly unique agreement. "We'll keep all the parts we have for
as
long as you have the car - you don't need to buy them all now. And the
price
for everything will be a quid."

I'm surprised he got away with that.

When VAG took over, they made dealers officially scrap and return any
stock parts, then they limited order in availability.

And then when people brought in the commie cars for work, they were
advised it was uneconomical to repair, then offer them silly trade ins
against Felicias and Fabias. Then, they had to scrap all the traded in
rear engined cars. No resale, no sending mint one owner low mileage
examples to the skoda museum, just cube them, and deny any knowledge of
their existence on the skoda UK website history section.
--

This is Scotland though, he is in Paisley to be specific.
we make Yorkshiremen look positively liberal with their cash.

An old fashioned dealer would have been the same, and remember some of the
old dealers got launched as well.

"DervMan" wrote in message
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
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**start of review**

It's all the car you actually need.

**End of review**


I had a courtesy car once, that was a Skoda Felica, N plate 1.3 LXi - so
pre-VAG I think.

Kinda, as I remember; it had some VAG bits but wasn't touted enough.

I was elated to get my Triumph Acclaim back. That's how bad it was. It
was the worst car I have ever driven by a mile, and the worst driving
experience I've ever had - so I'm including golf carts, lawn mowers, and
Transit vans etc in that. It didn't have one single endearing feature.
If someone had given me it for free I'd have refused it - and I'm very
polite in real life as well.

That may be your experience,


Yea, that's why I started the post with 'I had...'

I'm not replying to the rest of it. You used to be a really nice guy, and
posting style reflected, now you post angry stuff or SteveH bait. I don't
care about the SteveH bait, you boys flirting is funny, but there's no need
just to pick at everything else posted because they haven't ended the post
with "These I my opinions, I know a lot of people don't care about
performance and mpg means more to them". I know that, and didn't try and
suggest otherwise. The Skoda Felicia 1.3LXi is still the worst car I've
ever driven, and I've driven a Mk1 V6 with bad mpg, no boot space, hard to
park, dangerous handling, high insurance, high maintenence costs, and the
possibility of causing a smile...

Please bring the old Dervy back, the one that loved talking Ford Ka's and
about other performance things, the friendy geek who no one disliked and who
enjoyed just talking cars in general and who would've talked cars forever
given the chance! This angry, snipey Dervy who hates everything isn't as
nice :-(

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Dan B
Clio R27

"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
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Anyway, Skoda dealers have generally had a great reputation.

I've only been in one Skoda dealer, when I was considering going back to
motability and tested a Fabia vRS. They were incredibly friendly and
helpful, even though I made it clear I was looking for motability but
probably wouldn't actually be staying on the scheme. They let me and mum
take it out on our own, which no instructions, just "If you take the next
left that's a nice road". It was a lovely experience - and the vRS spat on
the Volvo C30. Still, I got over that "Losing the will to live" phase and
bought a yellow 197 :-)

And having said all that, my local Renault dealer is just as friendly, and
has never given me a single reason for anything but complete praise! I know
some are bad, as with any marque, hell they might all be bad except this one
for all I know. But, this is the only one I've used, so it's a 100% dealer
satisfaction experience for me.


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Dan B
Clio R27

On 9 Aug, 21:40, Elder wrote:

And an old rapid to show where my heart is.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w143_hIb8U

Here's that modified one from that Rihanna video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDu2UoDmrIE

My dad has always had Skodas. Scrapped my mum's hand-me-down Favorit
last week - the body was in a bit of a state in places, the alloys had
gone porous, the brake servo was on the blink, second gear synchro was
gone. But it was OK otherwise. The engine was still going strong at
170,000 miles. If I had the time, space and skill, I'd have taken it
and tried to renovate it. I've also had a bit of a hankering for an
Estelle (my dad used to have one of those too). Oh well, maybe one day!