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Tyre sealant stuff - which one?



 
 
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Old July 30th 08, 08:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?


"John" wrote in message
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I'd heard that Tyreweld makes a mess of the rims (in respect of fitting a
new tyre) and tyre fitters moan and complain about it - is that correct?


Yes, they will also normally refuse to repair the tyre as a result.


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Old July 30th 08, 08:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?

John wrote:

I'd heard that Tyreweld makes a mess of the rims (in respect of fitting a
new tyre) and tyre fitters moan and complain about it - is that correct?


Well it's certainly true that tyre fitters **** and moan a lot.
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Old July 30th 08, 10:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"John" wrote in message
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I'd heard that Tyreweld makes a mess of the rims (in respect of fitting a
new tyre) and tyre fitters moan and complain about it - is that correct?


Yes.

But.... Tyreweld have a deal with Kwik-Fit or some other high-street chain
of monkeys, that they'll clean it up while fixing the puncture for no extra
charge.


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Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...

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Old July 30th 08, 10:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?


"Tony (UncleFista)" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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I'd heard that Tyreweld makes a mess of the rims (in respect of fitting a
new tyre) and tyre fitters moan and complain about it - is that correct?


Yes.

But.... Tyreweld have a deal with Kwik-Fit or some other high-street chain
of monkeys, that they'll clean it up while fixing the puncture for no extra
charge.


Another good reason for not using it.


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Old July 31st 08, 01:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"John" wrote in message
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I've just had my car converted to dual fuel and now have a 67-litre LPG
tank in the spare wheel well instead of a spare wheel, so can anyone
recommend a good tyre sealant?

Each of the tyres is in really good condition with between 6 and 7mm tread
depth and the rims are alloys - just in case that makes any difference.

Cheers,


My car never came with a spare, I have 2 cans of Renault 'Tyre Repair
Aerosol" - no idea if it's any good mind you :-)

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Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65


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Old July 31st 08, 10:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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I've just had my car converted to dual fuel and now have a 67-litre LPG
tank in the spare wheel well instead of a spare wheel, so can anyone
recommend a good tyre sealant?

Each of the tyres is in really good condition with between 6 and 7mm
tread depth and the rims are alloys - just in case that makes any
difference.

Cheers,


My car never came with a spare, I have 2 cans of Renault 'Tyre Repair
Aerosol" - no idea if it's any good mind you :-)

--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65



I stuck a set of these on. Problem solved. No noticible difference in ride
once the pressure was reduced a few psi from stock. Technically you need
tyre pressure monitors too but thats up to you. I tries tyreseal gunge but
wheel balance goes out while stood, and returns only after 70 plus for ten
mins. After that it stays good until you park up for a while again.

http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/run-...s-disabled.htm

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Old July 31st 08, 10:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?

DanB wrote:
"John" wrote in message
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I've just had my car converted to dual fuel and now have a 67-litre LPG
tank in the spare wheel well instead of a spare wheel, so can anyone
recommend a good tyre sealant?

Each of the tyres is in really good condition with between 6 and 7mm tread
depth and the rims are alloys - just in case that makes any difference.

Cheers,


My car never came with a spare, I have 2 cans of Renault 'Tyre Repair
Aerosol" - no idea if it's any good mind you :-)


Yeah, my 225 Megane was the same, just a polystyrene insert in the spate
wheel well with a couple of cans. Didn't have the car long enough to use
the spray though...

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Old July 31st 08, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?

Interesting, Mike, that both you and "fast_cars_guy" mention a space-saver
tyre. Unfortunately, although it would work for almost 11 months of the
year, holiday time would be the problem. We usually go away for about 4 to
5 weeks, driving as far as Poland and Hungary, and believe me, that takes
a lot of luggage - and then there's booze to bring back, of course, so
every square inch of boot space is needed in that situation )


I've just bought a spare wheel and tyre for a tenner off Ebay for my Touran
just because I didn't want to go to France for a fortnight without one!
Mine lies in the boot wrapped in plastic until I need extra boot space or
the extra seats then I remove it, or roll up the parcel shelf and stack it
vertically.

Having previously broken down on a French (privatised) motorway and had to
pay a fortune up front to the recovery service to be taken to their tied
garage I don't want to repeat the experience. Yes, you can claim it back off
your breakdown service, but it's an unpleasant experience.

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Old August 1st 08, 09:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?

Burgerman wrote:
"DanB" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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I've just had my car converted to dual fuel and now have a 67-litre
LPG tank in the spare wheel well instead of a spare wheel, so can
anyone recommend a good tyre sealant?

Each of the tyres is in really good condition with between 6 and 7mm
tread depth and the rims are alloys - just in case that makes any
difference.

Cheers,


My car never came with a spare, I have 2 cans of Renault 'Tyre Repair
Aerosol" - no idea if it's any good mind you :-)

--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65



I stuck a set of these on. Problem solved. No noticible difference in
ride once the pressure was reduced a few psi from stock. Technically you
need tyre pressure monitors too but thats up to you.


No, it's not up to you. They should not be fitted to vehicles which do
not have remote pressure sensors. The reason is, once a puncture has
occurred, they must be treated as a temporary space saver tyre (or
unmatched tyre) - i.e. 50mph/80kph max and only as a get you home type
thing. In the link you sent "you can do 100 miles or so at 50 mph all
the way home safely". Without remote pressure sensors you have no idea
whether you have a puncture, and so could be doing 70mph or whatever.

As eTyres says: "The other essential item of safety equipment for a
vehicle with Run-flat tyres is a Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS).
Run-flat tyres are designed to minimise the difference in ride quality
when a tyre is punctured. This is especially the case with motorway
driving where there is relatively little cornering. For this reason it
is difficult to determine that a tyre has lost pressure or is operating
in zero pressure conditions. Should the driver not be aware of a loss of
pressure they may well exceed the safety limits imposed by the
manufacturer. This would eventually cause the tyre to fail. Run-flat
tyres are not indestructible!" http://www.etyres.co.uk/run-flat-tyres

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Old August 1st 08, 10:44 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg,uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default Tyre sealant stuff - which one?

"David Hearn" wrote in message
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Burgerman wrote:
"DanB" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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I've just had my car converted to dual fuel and now have a 67-litre LPG
tank in the spare wheel well instead of a spare wheel, so can anyone
recommend a good tyre sealant?

Each of the tyres is in really good condition with between 6 and 7mm
tread depth and the rims are alloys - just in case that makes any
difference.

Cheers,


My car never came with a spare, I have 2 cans of Renault 'Tyre Repair
Aerosol" - no idea if it's any good mind you :-)

--
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65



I stuck a set of these on. Problem solved. No noticible difference in
ride once the pressure was reduced a few psi from stock. Technically you
need tyre pressure monitors too but thats up to you.


No, it's not up to you. They should not be fitted to vehicles which do
not have remote pressure sensors. The reason is, once a puncture has
occurred, they must be treated as a temporary space saver tyre (or
unmatched tyre) - i.e. 50mph/80kph max and only as a get you home type
thing. In the link you sent "you can do 100 miles or so at 50 mph all the
way home safely". Without remote pressure sensors you have no idea
whether you have a puncture, and so could be doing 70mph or whatever.



Wrong. It is up to you. And it was up to me too! And I know all that.
Its easy to tell if ones a bit low just by driving it. I tried it by letting
10 psi out. Feels horrible.
So I do not need tp sensors. You might but then thats "up to you" isnt it.


As eTyres says: "The other essential item of safety equipment for a
vehicle with Run-flat tyres is a Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS).
Run-flat tyres are designed to minimise the difference in ride quality
when a tyre is punctured. This is especially the case with motorway
driving where there is relatively little cornering.



Yep my gran wouldnt notice if you stole the whole wheel. I on the other hand
certainly can, even on the rear. As could most on this group I would hope...

For this reason it
is difficult to determine that a tyre has lost pressure or is operating in
zero pressure conditions. Should the driver not be aware of a loss of
pressure they may well exceed the safety limits imposed by the
manufacturer. This would eventually cause the tyre to fail. Run-flat tyres
are not indestructible!" http://www.etyres.co.uk/run-flat-tyres

D


As I said your choice!
I can easily tell when 10 psi is missing. And you can run a NON run flat at
10 psi down on a motorway at 70 with little likelyhood of a problem. Ask my
mum she never checks tyre pressures and they are always half flat... Now
she needs tyre pressure monitors on ordinary tyres. I or most of this group
dont. Just a bit of "feel" and awareness.

 




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