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Old July 16th 08, 09:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Elder
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.

I love the aero, but I can't use the alarm for risk of it going off
after between 30 seconds and 5 minutes for no reason, I get sick of
being woken at 6AM at the weekend when it there is no one arround. I can
live without the alarm apart from the insurance, but I need it
imobilised if I park up anywhere and you don't get that using the key.

The alarm fitters have
1) replaced the ultra sonic controller
2) adjusted the ultra sonic controller
3) replaced the main alarm
4) checked the battery condition/drain/load when armed.

And only once did it show the problem with them.
As always it might be fine for 3 days, or it might go off 4 times a day.

It won't go off when the fan kicks in when the engine is off, and it
won't kick in when the fan stops, bit it might go off 5-30 minutes
later.

They have had it back to the shop 5 times in the last 2 months and each
time "fixed it", and this Saturday the head tech from Gemini UK is
coming to "fix it" as they don't know what is wrong now.
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Old July 16th 08, 10:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.

I love the aero, but I can't use the alarm for risk of it going off
after between 30 seconds and 5 minutes for no reason, I get sick of
being woken at 6AM at the weekend when it there is no one arround. I can
live without the alarm apart from the insurance, but I need it
imobilised if I park up anywhere and you don't get that using the key.

The alarm fitters have
1) replaced the ultra sonic controller
2) adjusted the ultra sonic controller
3) replaced the main alarm
4) checked the battery condition/drain/load when armed.

And only once did it show the problem with them.
As always it might be fine for 3 days, or it might go off 4 times a day.

It won't go off when the fan kicks in when the engine is off, and it
won't kick in when the fan stops, bit it might go off 5-30 minutes
later.

They have had it back to the shop 5 times in the last 2 months and each
time "fixed it", and this Saturday the head tech from Gemini UK is
coming to "fix it" as they don't know what is wrong now.


i ****ing hate alarms, the one on my BM started doing just what yours does
after a year of having it and my sisters fabia has always done it too.


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Old July 16th 08, 10:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5


It's a 14 year old car. Chances are that at some point it will have been
neglected. If you just need comfy and reliable then buy something fairly new
and cheap. Like a Mondeo at 4 or 5 years old.

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Old July 16th 08, 10:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.


Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well over
10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute worst, with
almost 100,000 miles on it. Just give in and get a Saxo diesel or
something. I know you want to be different etc etc but you're just making
your life difficult and stressful un-necessarily.

I love the aero, but I can't use the alarm for risk of it going off
after between 30 seconds and 5 minutes for no reason, I get sick of
being woken at 6AM at the weekend when it there is no one arround. I can
live without the alarm apart from the insurance, but I need it
imobilised if I park up anywhere and you don't get that using the key.


Get a quote without the alarm, it'll probably be about £15 more - if
anything at all. Even though you live in Beirut it seems, I bet it won't
make a difference because of the value of the car.

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Old July 16th 08, 10:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"Doki" wrote in message
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5


It's a 14 year old car. Chances are that at some point it will have been
neglected. If you just need comfy and reliable then buy something fairly
new and cheap. Like a Mondeo at 4 or 5 years old.


Big *DING*. Even if you have to do the unthinkable and borrow a few quid
for it, at least you'll have something that works and doesn't have a massive
bill round the corner for a change.

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Old July 16th 08, 11:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5


It's a 14 year old car. Chances are that at some point it will have been
neglected. If you just need comfy and reliable then buy something fairly
new and cheap. Like a Mondeo at 4 or 5 years old.


Big *DING*. Even if you have to do the unthinkable and borrow a few quid
for it, at least you'll have something that works and doesn't have a
massive bill round the corner for a change.


TBH there shouldn't be any need to borrow. My 406 was two and a half grand
and has had most big bills like cambelts out of the way. Needed a set of
disks (£40) and could do with new indicator stalks (£75 to £150 depending on
new or refurbed), and according to todays sums is managing nearly 47mpg.
Which is rather good. OTOH it's ****ing deathly dull, but all the controls
are light so it's about as good as a manual car gets for trundling up and
down the motorway and sitting in traffic on the motorway.

Much like Carl, I rather fancied something interesting, but I twigged fairly
soon on that anything old and good also tends to be rather complex and
expensive to repair (ie, old Mercs and BMWs), with 15 different common
faults to look out for and the added factor of rust. IMO the modern
repmobile has caught up with the NVH levels of the Executive repmobile of a
few years back, and tends to be cheap cheap.

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Old July 16th 08, 11:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Doki
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.


Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well over
10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute worst,
with almost 100,000 miles on it.


Um. That's a W124. They're fairly indestructible. OTOH the Merc club
reckoned I should have been looking at £7-8K for a 320 Estate if I wanted a
good one. And they all seemed to spend money on their motors like there was
no tomorrow.

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Old July 16th 08, 11:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Richard Kilpatrick[_2_]
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Doki wrote:

"DanB" wrote in message
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.


Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well
over 10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute
worst, with almost 100,000 miles on it.


Um. That's a W124. They're fairly indestructible. OTOH the Merc club
reckoned I should have been looking at £7-8K for a 320 Estate if I
wanted a good one. And they all seemed to spend money on their motors
like there was no tomorrow.


The Life Cycle of the Mercedes W124

Birth - Glorious moment, prestige, *gleamgleam*
Youth - Polished and pride
Puberty - "The neighbours have a newer plate one"
Adulthood - "Cor, it's a Merc for Mondeo money! And these buggers are
indestructible!" (Lack of maintaince follows, of course)
Middle age - "I've got pains in my joints"
Dotage - "Oh god, kill me now - no, wait, I'll do it meself" - or lots
of plastic surgery.

Thing is, the W124 mid 90s is made under Mercedes cost cutting, and they
rust earlier in their lives than the 1980s ones did. They ALL rust
though. And people need to spend big bucks on suspension on them, though
service parts aren't horrific.

I have tried a few leggy old W124s thinking "excellent overengineered
Merc, lovely, I remember what my old one was like". And then realising
that my old one was 70,000 miles and six years old. And was already
rusting in the rear 1/4 and went through a phase of not starting. And
had had the rear suspension levelling rebuilt under warranty once.

They are, or were, good cars. A good used buy they definitely ain't if
running cost is a factor.

Richard

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Old July 17th 08, 12:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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On 16 Jul, 22:02, Elder wrote:
If the details are right and it has full history?http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.


Hmmm... something like a Skoda Octavia, perhaps?

I love the aero, but I can't use the alarm for risk of it going off
after between 30 seconds and 5 minutes for no reason, I get sick of
being woken at 6AM at the weekend when it there is no one arround. I can
live without the alarm apart from the insurance, but I need it
imobilised if I park up anywhere and you don't get that using the key.


Last time I had a thatcham approved immobillisor fitted, it was
£100... a sum which I suspect is slightly less than it'll cost you to
change your car... again.

I think this is actually, discounting the rising cost of fuel aside,
just another case of you getting itchy car feet and making the excuses
you need to make to justify a change to yourself.

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Old July 17th 08, 12:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"Doki" wrote in message
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.


Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well
over 10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute
worst, with almost 100,000 miles on it.


Um. That's a W124. They're fairly indestructible. OTOH the Merc club
reckoned I should have been looking at £7-8K for a 320 Estate if I wanted
a good one. And they all seemed to spend money on their motors like there
was no tomorrow.


But it's a late one, from when Merc's quality control budget was 17p and
their 'make stuff go forever' policy was replaced by their 'make stuff
cheaply' policy.

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