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Old July 20th 08, 01:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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On 20 Jul, 12:56, "Bob Sherunckle"
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Can't you stick LPG on it and wave it under the usual perverts noses
in here? ;-)


Decent LPG system on that thing is going to cost more than I paid for
the car . Plus I like the fact that I can get six wheels in the back
(without tyres, admittedly) so I'm not too keen on changing that.


You know my thoughts on 'LPG being the one true way' ;-)



You'll find that the position of camping gas bore is already taken if you
don't mind, thank you very much.
That's 'my' seat......

;-)


I was being ironic... I'm the anti-LPG. ;-)

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Old July 20th 08, 01:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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On 20 Jul, 12:56, "Bob Sherunckle"
wrote:
Can't you stick LPG on it and wave it under the usual perverts noses
in here? ;-)


Decent LPG system on that thing is going to cost more than I paid for
the car . Plus I like the fact that I can get six wheels in the back
(without tyres, admittedly) so I'm not too keen on changing that.


You know my thoughts on 'LPG being the one true way' ;-)



You'll find that the position of camping gas bore is already taken if you
don't mind, thank you very much.
That's 'my' seat......

;-)


I was being ironic... I'm the anti-LPG. ;-)


And I was being self criticising and taking irony to a whole new level.

Obviously...


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Old July 20th 08, 02:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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On 20 Jul, 08:02, Timo Geusch
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On 19 Jul, 14:03, "Timo Geusch"
wrote:
Hopefully not following the lead of Mercedes when it comes to quality
control.


I think the blingy bits have become more apparent, the more the years
have rolled by. *Meanwhile, corners appear to have been cut elsewhere
they've hoped you wouldn't notice on account of being blinded by light
reflected off the bling.


Proper "production engineering" then...


The way of the world unfortunately...


You won't find me disagreeing. I can see that companies appreciate
repeat business but I think it's gone the wrong way a little
recently. Partially because even if you are willing to pay a premium to
get something decent now, you may find that it still isn't.

I've seen more than one review for the Mk5 Golf which has passed
comment that they're down on quality compared to the Mk4, and the same
was said at times about the Mk4 compared to the Mk3.


Well, people are still saying that the Mk2 Golf was the high point
quality-wise. Looking around they may even be right.


For its time, the Mk2 was a very well built exception to the rule when
you consider what were its European contemporaries were like.


E-scrote. *Shudder*.

Mind ewe, VW had some bad reputation to overcome from the early Mk1 Golf
that rusted in a way that only Fiats were supposed to.

I'm still not sure whether or not in terms of pure longevity, whether
they're any better than a Mk3, unless of course you take into account
things like rear beam bushes. ;-)


Fair enough. I just notice that there are still an awful lot of them
around.

I did have a rant at them after they inadvertently broke one of the
front seat belt adjusters when fixing another problem I had with it
when I first had it, but mainly because they were fully booked and
expected me to use it for a week with a knackered front passenger
seatbelt until they could have it back in.

Funnily enough, they've been very attentive since and I'd probably buy
something else off them in future as a result if I was in the market
for something similar to the Passat.


Good job.

That, and I'd be happy to leave something like an A8 parked up day
after day in a station car park, but I'm not so sure I'd want to do
the same with a classic Porsche, or even the MX5 given the soft top.


Trouble with A8s and station car parks is that the aluminium body dents
easily so they're not exactly station car material.


I was thinking more along the lines of oiks trying to break in or key
something up just because they can. *Good point though.


Oddly enough I think it's less prone to that as it doesn't look that
flash - it's just big.


Exactly... which is why I suggested it was probably a good one to keep
for the run to the station. ;-)


Not compared to the MX5, 'cos the A8 probably needs more fuel to fire up
than the MX5 consumes all the way to the station...

Can't you stick LPG on it and wave it under the usual perverts noses
in here? ;-)


Decent LPG system on that thing is going to cost more than I paid for
the car . Plus I like the fact that I can get six wheels in the back
(without tyres, admittedly) so I'm not too keen on changing that.


You know my thoughts on 'LPG being the one true way' ;-)


Yebbut, the good thing about one true ways is that pretty much every
religion has one. And they all differ .

That, and he probably broke the cardinal rule buying something like
this privately - always get it HPI checked. I know he didn't...


Cars like that do that to the more excitable, methinks.


They certainly do, otherwise offloading dodgy ones would be far harder
work...


'Timo Geusch? Matt Allwright, BBC Rogue Traders (1).'


Oi! I would like to point out that despite me buying the odd dodgy motor
I've never offloaded one without either the buyer knowing exactly what
they were getting or fully repaired.

Mind you, several were collected by scrappies that looked even dodgier
than the car...

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Old July 20th 08, 04:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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On 20 Jul, 14:50, Timo Geusch
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writes:
On 20 Jul, 08:02, Timo Geusch
wrote:
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On 19 Jul, 14:03, "Timo Geusch"
wrote:
Hopefully not following the lead of Mercedes when it comes to quality
control.


I think the blingy bits have become more apparent, the more the years
have rolled by. *Meanwhile, corners appear to have been cut elsewhere
they've hoped you wouldn't notice on account of being blinded by light
reflected off the bling.


Proper "production engineering" then...


The way of the world unfortunately...


You won't find me disagreeing. I can see that companies appreciate
repeat business but I think it's gone the wrong way a little
recently. Partially because even if you are willing to pay a premium to
get something decent now, you may find that it still isn't.


Yup. I think the Mercs of the mid 90s are the most obvious example of
a brand ruining a previously pretty good reputation for quality,
overnight.

I've seen more than one review for the Mk5 Golf which has passed
comment that they're down on quality compared to the Mk4, and the same
was said at times about the Mk4 compared to the Mk3.


Well, people are still saying that the Mk2 Golf was the high point
quality-wise. Looking around they may even be right.


For its time, the Mk2 was a very well built exception to the rule when
you consider what were its European contemporaries were like.


E-scrote. *Shudder*.

Mind ewe, VW had some bad reputation to overcome from the early Mk1 Golf
that rusted in a way that only Fiats were supposed to.


I've seen some really rotten later ones as well - to be fair they're
all 25 years old plus now.

I'm still not sure whether or not in terms of pure longevity, whether
they're any better than a Mk3, unless of course you take into account
things like rear beam bushes. ;-)


Fair enough. I just notice that there are still an awful lot of them
around.


They've got something the Mk3 has never really managed to acquire, as
in cult car status. (Yes, I said cu*l*t)

A bit early for judgement to be passed on the Mk3s yet, but I can't
see them ever attaining the same sort of status, even though they're a
perfectly good car which again was better than most of its European
contemporaries, at least if you didn't buy the cheapest, most poverty
spec model you could only just afford, that is.

SNIP

That, and he probably broke the cardinal rule buying something like
this privately - always get it HPI checked. I know he didn't...


Cars like that do that to the more excitable, methinks.


They certainly do, otherwise offloading dodgy ones would be far harder
work...


'Timo Geusch? *Matt Allwright, BBC Rogue Traders (1).'


Oi! I would like to point out that despite me buying the odd dodgy motor
I've never offloaded one without either the buyer knowing exactly what
they were getting or fully repaired.


Aye. :-)

Mind you, several were collected by scrappies that looked even dodgier
than the car...


What happened to that Jetta GTi you had in the end?

I quite liked that.

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Old July 20th 08, 04:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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What happened to that Jetta GTi you had in the end?

I quite liked that.


Pervert.
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Old July 20th 08, 05:00 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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On 20 Jul, 16:53, (SteveH) wrote:
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What happened to that Jetta GTi you had in the end?


I quite liked that.


Pervert.


Ahem... it didn't even have alloys IIRC.

A proper luke warm, as the factory intended, sleeper if ever there
was. :-)

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Old July 20th 08, 05:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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But the expected service and repair costs showed a bigger difference, a
chunky difference. That was because one in a given number of common rail
diesels will have a fuel system problem. Injectors at £300 a pop, fuel
pumps at £400, or whatever; starts to get expensive.


You're talking about one of the reasons I bougt a petrol/LPG van instead of
a derv one. I wanted something I could rack up the miles on with the thing
way out of warranty and not have worries about expensive things going wrong.
Obvious mechanical bits like gearbox and diff had 6 months or so under the
remaining Merc warranty to make some noise and get replaced for nowt (cheers
Mercedes for the brand new rear axle :-)), and the rest is pretty simple and
straightforward, safe in the knowledge that it's a good old fashioned simple
petrol engine that just needs the odd set of spark plugs throwing at it, and
the oil changing now and again. Things used to be the opposite with petrols
and diesels, with the former wanting points setting, plugs, leads and coils
possibly needing sorting out, tappets adjusting, etc etc, and diesels just
wanting oil changes and fuel/air filters, but now most petrols get by on oil
and all the filters and plugs (thanks to whatever replaces HT leads these
days), and diesels have all sorts of issues with DPFs, clogged injectors,
high pressure pumps, etc etc.....

I must admit, I was a bit optimistic on the mpg I'd expected from it when
running on gas, but even so, it does broadly half the mpg compared to a
diesel version, and LPG's gone from being around half the price of diesel,
to a good 10p/litre or so less than half, so it'll do....

Or Citroën Xantia Active


I'm dead pleased with mine, after a 230-odd mile trip from Wales today. The
ability to use proper amounts of revs (unlike diesels) is nice for
overtaking on big steep hills, but the combination of turbo plus
not-complete-gutlessness like diesels at 1k-1.5k rpm, means you can drive it
like a V8 (but without the *proper* torque) around town - a mode which I
could effortlessly switch back to once off the M4 this end and heading home.

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Old July 20th 08, 08:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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You'll find that the position of camping gas bore is already taken if you
don't mind, thank you very much.
That's 'my' seat......


I demand a game of musical chairs!

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Old July 20th 08, 11:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"Timo Geusch" wrote in message
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"DanB" writes:

So we emailed the seller to let him know, because he hadn't mentioned it
in
his write up - so we're sure he didn't know... His reply was "Oh, I
can't
alter the auction now as it's too late, but I've just had *insert a few
small jobs here* done to surely it's still worth it....". We then of
course
felt it was our moral duty to inform the winning bidder, just incase the
seller forgot :-) They never replied however...


You know that that's a good way of getting kicked off of ebay if you
"badmouth" another seller's auction and they find out? At least it used
to be.

OTOH I can't really understand why people don't spend the 3 quid for a
basic HPI check even on a cheap car. Even if the car is only a few
hundred it's still a few hundred down the bog if it turns out to be
banana shaped or nicked.


Yea we were just been spiteful because he'd told us it was a minter and a
real bargain... And naturally we used a 'spare' account as well...

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