"AstraVanMann" wrote in message
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These people clearly have the cash to drive more expensive modern cars as
daily drivers if they wanted to.
But they don't - that would just be daft.

With that in mind, maybe they'd make an ideal opting-out-of-company-cars
choice for someone on here :-)


It kinda made me want one too :-)

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Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65

On 17 Jul, 18:43, Elder wrote:
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says... Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well over
10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute worst, with
almost 100,000 miles on it. *Just give in and get a Saxo diesel or
something. *I know you want to be different etc etc but you're just making
your life difficult and stressful un-necessarily.

I just want something that I fit and can afford to fuel.
What I need is, something as small on the outside as the Favorit for
parking.
With the visibility all round of the Rangie
With the space on the inside of the Celsior
With the boot space of the 900
With the performance of the 9000
With the handling of the GT4
With the reliability and fuel economy of the Octavia
and finally with the purchase price of the Estelle.

Any suggestions?

Some hardcore narcotics... either to sell to raise the money for
something worthy, or to take to keep up the illusion you'd get
something that meets the full criteria above

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JackH

"DanB" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Wouldn't it just be easier, quicker and cheaper to rip the ****ing
thing out and put something else in?

See Elder's reply to my other post, it appears it's not a knackered
old alarm that someone else fitted, it's a new alarm he's just shelled
out £140 to have fitted.

Yes... and...?

So if you'd just spent £140 on an alarm, and it didn't work right, you'd
just bin it right?

Gotcha.

If I'd spent £140 on an alarm, and it didn't work right, I'd throw the
bloody thing back at the fitters if they couldn't fix it and demand my
money back. Then I'd take it elsewhere for a different brand to be
fitted, yes.

If I'd bought a car with a recently fitted alarm on it and it didn't work
right, then if the people who fitted it couldn't fix it, I'd take it
elsewhere for a different brand to be fitted, yes.

It's only £140. It's not exactly THAT much - especially viewed against
this amount of hassle.

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On 17 Jul, 10:39, "DervMan" wrote:
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On 17 Jul, 09:45, "Mike P" wrote:





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"Elder" wrote in message
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If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

With the arse ache I'm having with the replacement alarm and even
higher
petrol prices going on and on and on, time maybe for something a
little
newer with a lot less miles and a more reliable history.

Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well
over
10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute
worst,
with almost 100,000 miles on it. Just give in and get a Saxo diesel
or
something.

Ha Ha, I never met Carl, but I know from his postings he's taller,
heavier
and has bigger feet than me! I'd pay to see him commute in a Saxo
Diesel
;-)

I used to commute 200 miles a day in an AX Diesel - I'm 6'3" and have
a penchant for pies.

*****

The AX footwell always seemed a little spacious to me compared with the
Saxo. Perhaps it's crash protection; the AX was wider inside.

thinks Bet it's the side impact funkiness.

It was actually pretty comfy, and being the 1.5 it wasn't too slow
either.

I remember it being worse in terms of the pedals than the 106s I've
had, anyway.
************************************************** *****

I'm a size 10 shoe, and always wear fat skate shoes and the like, and I
can drive a Saxo/106 without a problem. The first few times I drove one
it was an issue, but then you just seem to be able to learn to do it. I
did anyway, you lot might not be as awesome as me though.


It is a case of having to get used to it, yes. There's a "is this really
worth the aggravation?" argument to be won before getting used to it. The
Caterham has a small footwell, I'd need to wear certain shoes to drive it
and even then, it would take plenty getting used to. Would it be worth it?
Hell yeah.

With a diesel Saxo, I'd run one because it looks okay*, it's cheap, it'll
not get nicked** and finally because it has a decent ride / handling
compromise. Worth it? Probably. Not so sure the middle range Saxos make
so much sense but there you go, that's just me..

*it isn't butt ugly like say the Micra.
**actually it might thanks to the VTR / VTS.

--
The DervMan
www.dervman.com

"Elder" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Well, whilst that is newer and less leggy than yours, it's still well
over
10 years old, built in the run when Mercs were at their absolute worst,
with
almost 100,000 miles on it. Just give in and get a Saxo diesel or
something. I know you want to be different etc etc but you're just
making
your life difficult and stressful un-necessarily.

I just want something that I fit and can afford to fuel.
What I need is, something as small on the outside as the Favorit for
parking.
With the visibility all round of the Rangie
With the space on the inside of the Celsior
With the boot space of the 900
With the performance of the 9000
With the handling of the GT4
With the reliability and fuel economy of the Octavia
and finally with the purchase price of the Estelle.

Any suggestions? No need to carry the weight of the servers any more, we
have the Cherokee at work.


My suggestion is to compromise, either with two vehicles (and all the other
compromises this involves!). Decide what you *need* and what you *want*.
From your list above, my compromise was on the performance, handling* and
purchase price when I bought 9-3 SS 1.8t. Of the list above, I added
"comfort" and "cruise control" and removed "interior space," "visibility"
and "boot space."

Cruise can always be retrofitted (bringing my post on topic, meh).

I did consider running "small diesel hatchback" (think: Fiesta TDCi, that
sort of thing) with cruise added. But then decided, sod this, it's probably
my last chance to run something vaguely interesting in the UK.

Of course, you're not me and I'm not you, so your mileage will vary. You
can do a lot worse than a fleet-type machine; think Passat, Mondeo, 406,
9-3. Diesel, petrol, LPG; whatever.

But. Why did you chop the Octavia? Will the same thing happen again?

*although as it happens, the SS feels a lot sharper than I initially gave it
credit for.

--
The DervMan
www.dervman.com

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"Mike P" wrote in message
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"DervMan" wrote in message
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"Douglas Payne" wrote in message
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Elder wrote:
If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

Just get an MX-5 and be done with it.


No no, if you want _that_ sort of car, get a Ka...


Dervy - what's the Ka like for mpg so long as it's not caned? My missus
tested one yesterday and fell in love with it.

I'm going to buy an older MX-5 that I can play with and mod, and a Ka for
the missus as she likes them. Should have them both by the middle of next
week.


A friend of mine recently traded in her old Endura-E engined Ka for a
newer Duratec one. She says it's loads faster and doesn't use as much
fuel. Obviously, her version of loads faster, may not match ours :-)

Could be. The Duratec-8v is quieter, but whines a lot, whereas the Endura-E
is gutteral. They're barely quicker, standard against standard, over
Elvington's quarter mile strip. Chip the Endura-E, fit the lightest wheels
you can, and they were effectively the same (times were +/- 0.2s).

Ford fitted the non-air conditioned machine with tall gearing and the
Duratec-8v needs 500 rpm on the tacho for the same performance, so it
didn't feel anywhere near as immediate as the Endura-E. But the Luxury
model (with a/c) has the same gearing as the Endura-E and is very close in
fuel consumption.

Of course, the new engine wasn't her reason for changing, she's just
earning more now, and wanted a new one, so she bought a pretty new (think
56 plate or something), shiny black Luxury Ka. I think it's Luxury, the
model, it has leather, aircon, quite nice alloys, leccy windows and stuff,
and had done something like 5k miles. She's over the moon with it.

It's a lovely specification; Kermy was a Luxury. It'll also have QuickClear
and may have the in-dash multichanger as I recall.

--
The DervMan
www.dervman.com

DanB wrote:

"AstraVanMann" wrote in message
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These people clearly have the cash to drive more expensive modern cars as
daily drivers if they wanted to.
But they don't - that would just be daft.

With that in mind, maybe they'd make an ideal opting-out-of-company-cars
choice for someone on here :-)


It kinda made me want one too :-)

Too old.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

"Mike P" wrote in message
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"DervMan" wrote in message
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"Douglas Payne" wrote in message
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Elder wrote:
If the details are right and it has full history?
http://smallr.com/3d5

Just get an MX-5 and be done with it.


No no, if you want _that_ sort of car, get a Ka...


Dervy - what's the Ka like for mpg so long as it's not caned? My missus
tested one yesterday and fell in love with it.

I'm going to buy an older MX-5 that I can play with and mod, and a Ka for
the missus as she likes them. Should have them both by the middle of next
week.

I would struggle to get 38mpg on a long run, being careful. I thought that
was wank. The same sort of run at the same speeds in my MK2 brings up 45mpg
or so.

"Doki" wrote in message
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I would struggle to get 38mpg on a long run, being careful. I thought that
was wank. The same sort of run at the same speeds in my MK2 brings up
45mpg or so.

Yebbut wheels are so much more efficient than the roof :-)

"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
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Let me stop you there.

Look no further.
One of my worst ever decisions was getting rid of the Audi 80.
Drove it from Le Ranolien in Brittany to Cumbernauld, then to Hamilton the
following day.
On 27 quid worth of French diesel.
Buy an Audi 80.
All the bits are available directly from German ebay for two bob if you
need them.

Not that you will.

They're as strong as an ox these cars.

For some reason that reminded me of the If you wanna buy a car buy a jag
song:

If you wanna buy a car, buy a jag.
There's room in the back for a shag.
There's a biscuit tin to keep your condoms in,
If you wanna buy a car, buy a jag.