"Doki" wrote in message
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"DanB" wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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Aldi have got a spacknav in.

http://www.medion.de/ms/aldi/md96920/uk/flash.html

It's £150 quid, has Trafficmaster, camera locations, maps for what looks
like most of western europe etc. Good value or an oddball piece of
****e?

If you're ok spending £150 on a Sat Nav to be fair, you may as well just
get one of the big name ones, as frankly (and not just snobbery) they are
better IME. The software is better, they don't crash, better screens etc
etc. I have a Tom Tom One XL Europe - I think it was about that price,
it has speed cameras on from PocketGPSWorld, and maps of UK and Europe.
Seems to do everything you want from a Nav, except I can't look back at
stats of the journey like max speed and stuff after I'm done. Which is
of course quite irrelevent, but sometimes would be mildly amusing heh.
Unless I can do it and I just haven't found the option - which is of
course of a possibility.

That's what I'm beginning to think. The big extra over other £150 sat navs
seems to be EU mapping, but I know that sometimes gets bundled for free
with sat navs.

As I say, my Tom Tom has Europe maps, and I'm sure it was about that price.
And there is the added benefit of the support and accessories you can get
which, speaking from experience of Medion laptops, can be a real arse with
Medion stuff.

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Dan
Clio V6

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"SteveH" wrote in message
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Lordy.UK wrote:

That's the sort of thing I'm wondering about. No good having an
all singing all dancing thing for feck all if you can't update
it or it ****s up.

As with a lot of Aldi's bargains, the P4220 is a discontinued unit,
hence being given to them to flog off cheap. I like the Medion units
though, always worked fine for me (although I've only used the PPC
versions). They were always good value for money, but - now that prices
have dropped across the board - £150 is a fair chunk on a budget SatNav
these days, you should be able to get something decent a fair bit
cheaper than that.

Just depends how important EU maps & TM is to you...

IME, TMC is useless. I shouldn't have bothered getting it for mine.

Which sat nav have you got? Apparently some use TrafficMaster and some use
ITIS. And then there's the option of data via GPRS...

Mine's a Navman, which uses TMC, the same as the Medion.

It often does pick up on traffic problems, but it gives more false
positives than anything else - you're better off relying on 'Sally
traffic' to be honest.
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"Doki" wrote in message
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My £50 navigo from ebuyer has Tomtom, Miomap and Turbodog on there (after
installing at home) and it's cheap enough to leave in the Locost with no
roof without worrying.

I don't know what any of that stuff is, bar Tomtom. Is it possible to get
tom tom traffic on these things? Do they generally work well (ie, as well
as it would on a proper tom tom)?

They're just 3 different sat-nav programs.
No tomtom traffic, and as the new Tomtom 7 doesn't run on windows, you can
only use TT6, it's all up to date though, speed cameras etc.

As TT6 is a couple of years old, hardware has caught up with the software
and it runs great, much quicker than my PDA/bluetooth GPS combe I was using
before my PDA took a nosedive onto a concrete floor

Doki wrote:

Snip

Below is a c&p account of my recent trip, sent to colleagues. Cue one
dimbo taxi driver and a non-functioning satnav.

Starts/
I've been accompanied by a nice lady name of Karin from ChileAlimentos,
and The Taxi Driver From The Dark Side who's our ferryman for the week.

The first thing he asked me when he picked me up was whether I had a
satnav device. Odd request from a cabbie, but as it happens, I have one
on my phone, so I fired it up and unsurprisingly, it showed I was in
Chile.

"Se vende?" he asked hopefully. "Is it for sale?"

"Er, no." (Has anyone else ever had a cabbie offer to buy their phone?
It's a first for me)

So off we went, collected Karin, and set out on the first day of our
last three days, so far, of travelling.

We have been in a Nissan that belongs in a museum. Oh, it goes, but it
is, shall we say, a little bit tired. And our driver doesn't have any
maps. Instead, he is relying on the smallest, crappiest little hand-held
satnav device you've ever seen. Imagine something made by Nintendo,
trying to receive a position fix from Sputnik One, powered by a single
AAA battery, and connecting via an old-fashioned Morse key, and you'll
get an idea of its usefulness.

So we have been getting lost. Regularly, frequently, and with great
originality. How the hell you can get lost in a country where there are
basically only two directions - North and South (and only one road that
goes north-south) - is a mystery to Karin and myself, but he's managed
it every day, several times a day, bless him. However, we have always
made our destination in the end, if occasionally late.

His finest moment yesterday was reversing up the Pan American motorway
because he'd missed the exit. I never knew big trucks could swerve like
that. But today he excelled himself.

Yesterday, poor Karin left her wedding rings in the pocket of her white
coat (jewellery and watches off for factory visits, but my ring will not
shift these days so I'm OK). She was upset, but called the factory this
morning, and yay! They had them! So we raced round our appointments
today to stop off at the factory concerned on our way back. Luckily it
was on our route. Well, as I intimated, you only go North or South in
Chile. Go West, and there's a chilly splash as you fall into the
Pacific, and go East and you bump into the Andes.

And he got lost again. Amazing. The factory was right beside the
motorway, on the other side, and he missed the exit again. So he parked
on the edge of the motorway and got out of the car to cross six lanes of
crazed high-speed traffic.

Anyone else remember that old video game, Frogger? Where you had to hop
a frog from lily pad to lily pad to get it across a river? it was like
that. I said to Karin, as we watched him skip nimbly between speeding
tanker trucks: "We're about to witness the death of a taxi driver."
Incredibly, he made it there and back.

Another problem is that he's a bit long-sighted, so he holds this
useless satnav out at arm's length as he regards it intently. It's a bit
like watching one of those chappies with a bad attack of religion at
some Catholic holy procession - you know, the one in front who's
carrying the brightly-painted statuette of the Virgin Mary, with a look
of combined faith, love and fear on his face. That's our cabbie and his
satnav. He reinforces the religious image by occasionally waving it
hopefully from side to side, in the manner of someone swinging a smoking
urn of incense. This would be all OK in itself, but with one hand on the
wheel, one hand thoughtfully waving his satnav, and his gaze fixed
firmly on it, not much attention is being paid to the road and oncoming
traffic.

The Wandering Driver From Hell apart, it's gone well. snip work related
stuff


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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60
The bells, the bells.....

Doki wrote:

Aldi have got a spacknav in.

http://www.medion.de/ms/aldi/md96920/uk/flash.html

It's £150 quid, has Trafficmaster, camera locations, maps for what
looks like most of western europe etc. Good value or an oddball piece
of ****e?

As usual with cheapo sat-navs, the first thing to check is if you can
get map updates. If you can't get any, forgettaboutit.

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"Tony (UncleFista)" wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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My £50 navigo from ebuyer has Tomtom, Miomap and Turbodog on there
(after installing at home) and it's cheap enough to leave in the Locost
with no roof without worrying.

I don't know what any of that stuff is, bar Tomtom. Is it possible to get
tom tom traffic on these things? Do they generally work well (ie, as well
as it would on a proper tom tom)?

They're just 3 different sat-nav programs.
No tomtom traffic, and as the new Tomtom 7 doesn't run on windows, you can
only use TT6, it's all up to date though, speed cameras etc.

As TT6 is a couple of years old, hardware has caught up with the software
and it runs great, much quicker than my PDA/bluetooth GPS combe I was
using before my PDA took a nosedive onto a concrete floor

Hang on. If these things run windows CE, could I use it as a PDA as well?

"Doki" wrote in message
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Hang on. If these things run windows CE, could I use it as a PDA as well?

Yes, you need to change 2 lines in the registry so it boots into windows
instead of straight to the GPS program (using the USB cable) and then it's
basically a PDA I just followed the link/instructions on the ebuyer
comments page for the sat-nav.

In message , Doki
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"Bob Sherunckle" wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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Aldi have got a spacknav in.

http://www.medion.de/ms/aldi/md96920/uk/flash.html

It's £150 quid, has Trafficmaster, camera locations, maps for what
looks like most of western europe etc. Good value or an oddball
piece of ****e?


Or
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131342

60 quid
Full 7 digit postcode search
Plays MP3s
Plays MP4s

And easily hackable to run that 'evluation' copy of tomtom that may
or may not be available in torrent format.

Mmm, tricky...

I'm quite tempted to have something that just works. I've got enough
things that need a bit of tinkering. OTOH that is ****ing cheap and I'd
not be heartbroken if it got nicked. How much meddling is required to
make it run tomtom? Are Sat navs now basically PDAs with a GPS device
inside?

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...21799&doy=17m5

pikey price and lifetime camera updates

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geoff

In message , Timo Geusch
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Doki wrote:

Aldi have got a spacknav in.

http://www.medion.de/ms/aldi/md96920/uk/flash.html

It's £150 quid, has Trafficmaster, camera locations, maps for what
looks like most of western europe etc. Good value or an oddball piece
of ****e?

As usual with cheapo sat-navs, the first thing to check is if you can
get map updates. If you can't get any, forgettaboutit.

But you'll be getting a next generation one in a couple of years

with new maps pre-loaded

while possible, the chance of getting unmapped roads is small


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geoff

"Doki" wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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Aldi have got a spacknav in.

http://www.medion.de/ms/aldi/md96920/uk/flash.html

It's £150 quid, has Trafficmaster, camera locations, maps for what looks
like most of western europe etc. Good value or an oddball piece of ****e?

In particular, has anyone got any idea how I'd go about updating the
camera database?
You seem too thick to use a search engine. Your abusive language reflects
your lack of intelligence unfortunately. I do wish your parents would put
your
computer where they could supervise your use of it.