In article , Carl Gibbs says...

TBH I could just put the old air box on there with it's high flow air
filters. I think I'll be doing some expeirmenting over the summer.

Glad this came up as I forgot I was going to put in some cold air
ducting in the Capper.

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In article , Pete M says...

4 barrels are ok, but don't work too well in long corners...

That's OK..it's a SD1. They don't do cornering very well anyway.
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I'll be doing something about that once the MoT is sorted. I'm
considering
using the old air filter elbows to mount the K&Ns over the 'V' rather
than
over the exhausts, and/or possibly wrapping the manifolds. But for
the time
being I don't intend on moving slowly

What about just making an intake tube system bolted to the carbs and
one
mahoosive filter out front in the cold (or twin not quite so
mahoosive)?
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Yeah that may be doable. Good thinking Batman!

TBH I could just put the old air box on there with it's high flow air
filters. I think I'll be doing some expeirmenting over the summer.
Just convert it to injection. Wuss.

Pah, injection is for girls. What i really want is a 4 barrel. Or the
turbo kit floating about on retro rides

4xWeber DCOE's with rampipes

That would be pretty cool. Isn't that what some of the TR8 factory rally
cars ran?

Anyway, done a lot of driving in the car today in 28 degrees of sunshine.
Started loosing a bit of top end power this afternoon, which I thought might
be caused by the filters sucking in too much hot air. But I filled it up
this morning (£70 - ouch!) with normal unleaded so decided to plonk some
lead replacement additive stuff in it too. After that it did seem a bit
better. Might have to start putting super unleaded in it too to see how
that helps. My fuel bills gonna get huge!

But all in all I was immpressed with how it drove today. Seems to have more
power than I remember which is good, but might just be due to driving a
revvy little 106 for the last few months. I forogtten how great the noise
is at full chat though. And it's nice to have people making positive
comments about your car. I love my SD1

In article , Carl Gibbs says...

"Abo" wrote in message
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Carl Gibbs wrote:
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Carl Gibbs wrote:
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In article ,

says...
I'll be doing something about that once the MoT is sorted. I'm
considering
using the old air filter elbows to mount the K&Ns over the 'V' rather
than
over the exhausts, and/or possibly wrapping the manifolds. But for
the time
being I don't intend on moving slowly

What about just making an intake tube system bolted to the carbs and
one
mahoosive filter out front in the cold (or twin not quite so
mahoosive)?
--
Yeah that may be doable. Good thinking Batman!

TBH I could just put the old air box on there with it's high flow air
filters. I think I'll be doing some expeirmenting over the summer.
Just convert it to injection. Wuss.

Pah, injection is for girls. What i really want is a 4 barrel. Or the
turbo kit floating about on retro rides

4xWeber DCOE's with rampipes

That would be pretty cool. Isn't that what some of the TR8 factory rally
cars ran?

Bike carb conversion. Saw a TR8 in Boggs with a set on. 8 Yammy R1 bike
carbs in two rows of four on custom manifolds. Seriously impressive
sight.


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looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article ,
Pete M wrote:

Pah, injection is for girls. What i really want is a 4 barrel. Or the
turbo kit floating about on retro rides


Turbo *and* injection then.

4 barrels are ok, but don't work too well in long corners...

What he said, and do something about the exhaust.....

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Geoff wrote:
In article ,
Pete M wrote:

Pah, injection is for girls. What i really want is a 4 barrel. Or the
turbo kit floating about on retro rides

Turbo *and* injection then.

4 barrels are ok, but don't work too well in long corners...

What he said, and do something about the exhaust.....


I saw a SD1 about 15 years ago in Darlington with side pipes on. It was
lowered, painted black with a dark purple metalflake and had a 4.2 in it.

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"Conor" wrote in message
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In article , Pete M
says...

4 barrels are ok, but don't work too well in long corners...

That's OK..it's a SD1. They don't do cornering very well
anyway.

You're wrong. They do corner quite well, and the Vitesse with
it's modified suspension is excellent. Better than many later
cars I've driven, including the 528i E39 I'm driving at present.
In the early 80's the TWR developed Vitesse was dominant in the
BSCC championships. Pretty good for a car, that according to you
"didn't do cornering very well"
Mike.

In article ,
says...

That's OK..it's a SD1. They don't do cornering very well
anyway.

You're wrong. They do corner quite well, and the Vitesse with
it's modified suspension is excellent. Better than many later
cars I've driven, including the 528i E39 I'm driving at present.
In the early 80's the TWR developed Vitesse was dominant in the
BSCC championships. Pretty good for a car, that according to you
"didn't do cornering very well"



There is no way to compare a street suspension to a race suspension when
it comes to evaluating its performance or the roadholding of the car for
that matter.

For what "excellent suspension" goes: things evolved somewhat since the
launch of the SD1, suspension (and tires) are some of those things.

Was the AR155 Silverstone (also dominant in BTCC) a better road car for
it? Nope and the same logic -for similar reasons- is valid for the
Rover. The worst (and ill-spec'd) roadcar can become a very to excellent
racer: lack of chassis (in the road version) proves often an advantage
for the chassisdesigner because the nude chassis weighs less (and the
roll cage does the job of the chassis).

It is no secret that *all* Ford Cosworth works circuitracers did not use
the offical "Cosworth"-spec chassis with its re-inforced suspension
points: they used the 1.3 and 1.6 GL-chassis which was about 15 kg
lighter. Rollcage and pickup-points on it distributed the forces far
better that the roadgoing cosworth chassis while keeping a weight
advantage.

Tom De Moor

"Tom De Moor" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

That's OK..it's a SD1. They don't do cornering very well
anyway.

You're wrong. They do corner quite well, and the Vitesse with
it's modified suspension is excellent. Better than many later
cars I've driven, including the 528i E39 I'm driving at
present.
In the early 80's the TWR developed Vitesse was dominant in
the
BSCC championships. Pretty good for a car, that according to
you
"didn't do cornering very well"



There is no way to compare a street suspension to a race
suspension when
it comes to evaluating its performance or the roadholding of
the car for
that matter.

My opinion is not just based on track performance. It's primarily
based on personal experience, having owned a 1985 Vitesse since
1988.

For what "excellent suspension" goes: things evolved somewhat
since the
launch of the SD1, suspension (and tires) are some of those
things.

Was the AR155 Silverstone (also dominant in BTCC) a better road
car for
it? Nope and the same logic -for similar reasons- is valid for
the
Rover. The worst (and ill-spec'd) roadcar can become a very to
excellent racer: lack of chassis (in the road version) proves
often an advantage
for the chassisdesigner because the nude chassis weighs less
(and the
roll cage does the job of the chassis).

AIUI the BSCC homolgation rules did not allow the sort of
modifications allowed on BTCC cars. BSCC cars had to be basically
production cars. Hence the the requirement to produce at least
500? for sale to the public.
Hence the suspension on the Vitesse, as sold to the public, was
basically the same as that used on the race cars.

AIUI homolgation is the only reason why twin plenum versions were
made. It was a modification made to improve the power output of
the race engines, making little difference on the roadgoing
version.

Apart from being lower with stiffer springs, shocks etc, the
suspension also had less compliant polyurathane bushings. Not
forgetting the rear spoiler and front air dam which actually do
add to the package, as compared to many of those on cars today
which are often aded for cosmetic purposes only.

I understand the point you're making though about BTCC cars.
Although they might look like road cars, that's about as far it
goes. Under the outer shell very little of a std road car
remains.
Mike.

"Conor" wrote in message
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In article , Pete M says...

4 barrels are ok, but don't work too well in long corners...

That's OK..it's a SD1. They don't do cornering very well anyway.
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Mine doesn't corner too bad, but it's got uprated suspension.

I think the 106 would probably run rings round it, well in the dry at least.
But thats not what it's all about