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Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)



 
 
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Old May 7th 08, 03:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Albert T Cone
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)

Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to
be the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so
I'm thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.
I previously had a 405 with the same lump, and had that fettled by a
company down in Leics somewhere - it made it quite a bit quicker, and
I'd happily go back there, except that I'm living up in Durham now, so
I'm wondering if anyone knows of anyone in the Durham/Tees/Stockton area
or anywhere up to the Tyne who might be able to provide similar
fettlage[1], preferably without instant engine borkage?

I know Abo lurks round these parts somewhere and may have Local
Knowledge, but any suggestions welcome.

atc

p.s. sorry for the OT posting..


[1] I could follow one of the internet guides and DIY, but I'm not sure
I trust myself - I'd rather find someone who knows from harsh experience
how much is too much...
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Old May 7th 08, 04:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Tony \(UncleFista\)
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)


"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to be
the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so I'm
thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.
I previously had a 405 with the same lump, and had that fettled by a
company down in Leics somewhere - it made it quite a bit quicker, and I'd
happily go back there, except that I'm living up in Durham now, so I'm
wondering if anyone knows of anyone in the Durham/Tees/Stockton area or
anywhere up to the Tyne who might be able to provide similar fettlage[1],
preferably without instant engine borkage?

I know Abo lurks round these parts somewhere and may have Local Knowledge,
but any suggestions welcome.


If it's an XUD on a Bosch pump, remove the anti-tamper plug for the mixture
screw, then screw the adjuster half a turn in (or maybe out for a bit of
black-smoke-action (or a quarter of a turn for less smoke but more
oooomph...)

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Old May 7th 08, 09:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Tim..
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)


"Tony (UncleFista)" wrote in message
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"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to be
the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so I'm
thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.
I previously had a 405 with the same lump, and had that fettled by a
company down in Leics somewhere - it made it quite a bit quicker, and I'd
happily go back there, except that I'm living up in Durham now, so I'm
wondering if anyone knows of anyone in the Durham/Tees/Stockton area or
anywhere up to the Tyne who might be able to provide similar fettlage[1],
preferably without instant engine borkage?

I know Abo lurks round these parts somewhere and may have Local
Knowledge, but any suggestions welcome.


If it's an XUD on a Bosch pump, remove the anti-tamper plug for the
mixture screw, then screw the adjuster half a turn in (or maybe out for
a bit of black-smoke-action (or a quarter of a turn for less smoke but
more oooomph...)


Indeed , but you really want to be re-setting the boost aneroid peg as well
as the max fuelling screw (mentioned above) for best results, and also
checking and subsequently adjusting the boost pressure.

I expect the wastegate spring has gone soft and you are not seeing the
original factory 1 bar. Start by getting that right, then adjust the
fuelling.

Tim..




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Old May 7th 08, 10:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Abo
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)

Albert T Cone wrote:
Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to
be the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so
I'm thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.
I previously had a 405 with the same lump, and had that fettled by a
company down in Leics somewhere - it made it quite a bit quicker, and
I'd happily go back there, except that I'm living up in Durham now, so
I'm wondering if anyone knows of anyone in the Durham/Tees/Stockton area
or anywhere up to the Tyne who might be able to provide similar
fettlage[1], preferably without instant engine borkage?

I know Abo lurks round these parts somewhere and may have Local
Knowledge, but any suggestions welcome.

atc

p.s. sorry for the OT posting..


[1] I could follow one of the internet guides and DIY, but I'm not sure
I trust myself - I'd rather find someone who knows from harsh experience
how much is too much...


Bah I was going to suggest DIY, I've not taken a car to be fettled for
ages. Motorscope on Standard Way in Northallerton used to be the dogs
but I'm not sure what they're like these days. Plenty of chav shops
round here though.

There's Future Racing Developments in the Boro but again I dunno what
they're like.

DIY is relatively straightforward on that engine though, if you don't
mind giving the fuel pump a bit of a reacharound. It's dead easy to mess
about with the fuelling. Just make sure you lob on a boost gauge first
so you know where you're starting from.

Nice guide he http://www.club-306.com/guides/306_turbo_tuning



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Old May 8th 08, 09:07 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Mike P
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)


"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to be
the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so I'm
thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.
I previously had a 405 with the same lump, and had that fettled by a
company down in Leics somewhere - it made it quite a bit quicker, and I'd
happily go back there, except that I'm living up in Durham now, so I'm
wondering if anyone knows of anyone in the Durham/Tees/Stockton area or
anywhere up to the Tyne who might be able to provide similar fettlage[1],
preferably without instant engine borkage?

I know Abo lurks round these parts somewhere and may have Local Knowledge,
but any suggestions welcome.

atc

p.s. sorry for the OT posting..


[1] I could follow one of the internet guides and DIY, but I'm not sure I
trust myself - I'd rather find someone who knows from harsh experience how
much is too much...


I'm trying to find someone who'd do similar to my 1.9TD Xantia with the same
motor as yours, so if you find out, let me know.. I don't mind travelling to
have it done right!

cheers
MIke


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Old May 8th 08, 02:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Albert T Cone
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)

Abo wrote:
Albert T Cone wrote:

Bah I was going to suggest DIY, I've not taken a car to be fettled for
ages. Motorscope on Standard Way in Northallerton used to be the dogs
but I'm not sure what they're like these days. Plenty of chav shops
round here though.

There's Future Racing Developments in the Boro but again I dunno what
they're like.

DIY is relatively straightforward on that engine though, if you don't
mind giving the fuel pump a bit of a reacharound. It's dead easy to mess
about with the fuelling. Just make sure you lob on a boost gauge first
so you know where you're starting from.

Nice guide he http://www.club-306.com/guides/306_turbo_tuning


Thanks Abo (and Tony, and Tim..). It really doesn't look too bad, does
it. Hmmm. I have a boost gauge on my 205, that I can borrow, so I
don't really have any excuses. Certainly, as Tim.. says, worth checking
that I'm actually getting the boost I should be.

Cheers chaps. There might actually be some modding going on shortly...
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Old May 8th 08, 02:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Albert T Cone
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)

Mike P wrote:
"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to be
the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so I'm
thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.

p.s. sorry for the OT posting..


I'm trying to find someone who'd do similar to my 1.9TD Xantia with the same
motor as yours, so if you find out, let me know.. I don't mind travelling to
have it done right!

cheers
MIke


Well, after encouragement from the others, and reading through a couple
of the how-to guides, it really doesn't look too daunting, so I reckon I
might have a go at DIYing it.
If you don't fancy that, the people I used for my 405TD we
www.dervdoctor.co.uk (services-mechanical tuning)
IIRC, it cost about £120, and they are based in Asbourne (Derbyshire?
Leics? somewhere halfway down and flat, anyway...)

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Old May 8th 08, 02:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Mike P
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)


"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Mike P wrote:
"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to
be the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so
I'm thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.

p.s. sorry for the OT posting..


I'm trying to find someone who'd do similar to my 1.9TD Xantia with the
same motor as yours, so if you find out, let me know.. I don't mind
travelling to have it done right!

cheers
MIke


Well, after encouragement from the others, and reading through a couple of
the how-to guides, it really doesn't look too daunting, so I reckon I
might have a go at DIYing it.
If you don't fancy that, the people I used for my 405TD we
www.dervdoctor.co.uk (services-mechanical tuning)
IIRC, it cost about £120, and they are based in Asbourne (Derbyshire?
Leics? somewhere halfway down and flat, anyway...)


That's what I'm looking for :-) At the moment, I've no way of getting under
the car to fiddle with the wastegate. I'm sure it's not boosting properly as
it will only do 105mph now. When I got it, it would indicate a heady 125
:-). It *feels* flat too...

Thanks a lot!
Mike


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Old May 8th 08, 03:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Albert T Cone
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Default Mechanical TD tuning (ping Abo?)

Mike P wrote:
"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
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Mike P wrote:
"Albert T Cone" wrote in message
...
Hi chaps,

I recently bought a 306TD for SWMBO. It's a '97, but in decent nick, 2
prev owners and 81k miles. Anyway, it looks likely that it's going to
be the family runaround, with me doing a good chunk of the driving, so
I'm thinking of things to give it a bit more poke.

p.s. sorry for the OT posting..

I'm trying to find someone who'd do similar to my 1.9TD Xantia with the
same motor as yours, so if you find out, let me know.. I don't mind
travelling to have it done right!

cheers
MIke

Well, after encouragement from the others, and reading through a couple of
the how-to guides, it really doesn't look too daunting, so I reckon I
might have a go at DIYing it.
If you don't fancy that, the people I used for my 405TD we
www.dervdoctor.co.uk (services-mechanical tuning)
IIRC, it cost about £120, and they are based in Asbourne (Derbyshire?
Leics? somewhere halfway down and flat, anyway...)


That's what I'm looking for :-) At the moment, I've no way of getting under
the car to fiddle with the wastegate. I'm sure it's not boosting properly as
it will only do 105mph now. When I got it, it would indicate a heady 125
:-). It *feels* flat too...

Thanks a lot!
Mike


No problem. The 405 chugged along a good bit better after they had
twiddled with it for an hour or so - definitely worth the dosh. If they
weren't several million miles south of me now I'd be heading back there.

Good luck!
 




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