It's just occured to me that I've got an old KR sat in my 16V that's slowly
rotting in the shed. It'd need megasquirting or similar, but obviously the
lump would be free, albeit in need of engine mounts and a downpipe. Has
anyone got any idea of the power potential of one of these on proper
injection without ****ing about porting it etc (140K, was down on power
(someone had meddled with the injection system making it do 28mpg quite
slowly) but not really using much oil before)? Any ideas on what sort of
costs I'd be looking at to do a DIY rebuild on it to get it something like?

OTOH an ABF is more likely to work well out of the box as it were due to not
being leggy as hell and abused by 5 owners...

"Doki" wrote in message
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It's just occured to me that I've got an old KR sat in my 16V that's
slowly rotting in the shed. It'd need megasquirting or similar, but
obviously the lump would be free, albeit in need of engine mounts and a
downpipe. Has anyone got any idea of the power potential of one of these
on proper injection without ****ing about porting it etc (140K, was down
on power (someone had meddled with the injection system making it do 28mpg
quite slowly) but not really using much oil before)? Any ideas on what
sort of costs I'd be looking at to do a DIY rebuild on it to get it
something like?

My internally standard KR 16V with a 4 branch manifold, K&N and some cold
air ducting gave 160bhp, 120@wheels on a rolling road. You might get to
170bhp with properly mapped fuel and ignition but I wouldn't expect any
more. Unlike the other 16V engines at the time which were mostly restricted
by their induction system the VW 16V has a poorer cylinder head design that
limits the tuning potential with a standard head.
Since you're megasquirting it anyway it wouldn't be much more work to bolt a
turbo on and lower the compression ratio with a copper spacer.

"Homer" wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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It's just occured to me that I've got an old KR sat in my 16V that's
slowly rotting in the shed. It'd need megasquirting or similar, but
obviously the lump would be free, albeit in need of engine mounts and a
downpipe. Has anyone got any idea of the power potential of one of these
on proper injection without ****ing about porting it etc (140K, was down
on power (someone had meddled with the injection system making it do
28mpg quite slowly) but not really using much oil before)? Any ideas on
what sort of costs I'd be looking at to do a DIY rebuild on it to get it
something like?

My internally standard KR 16V with a 4 branch manifold, K&N and some cold
air ducting gave 160bhp, 120@wheels on a rolling road. You might get to
170bhp with properly mapped fuel and ignition but I wouldn't expect any
more. Unlike the other 16V engines at the time which were mostly
restricted by their induction system the VW 16V has a poorer cylinder head
design that limits the tuning potential with a standard head.

Aye. TBH by the time there's a 4 branch on there at ~ £200, and I've
megasquirted it, I'd probably be a hundred or two off an ABF, which would be
giving more power and more torque. Seems a waste to bin a half decent engine
but I suppose there's not much else to do.

Since you're megasquirting it anyway it wouldn't be much more work to bolt
a turbo on and lower the compression ratio with a copper spacer.

Bah. More to go wrong, much more complication, much harder to map by
guesswork. And more £s.