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*Really* sideways in an FWD car?



 
 
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Old July 9th 03, 11:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Doki
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John Fitzgerald wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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I watched the video of Tiff Needel driving the Ford Puma around a wet

track
again today. He got the car massively sideways (I'd say about the same

as
he
got the RWD M5). Any ideas on how he managed it? P'raps I need to get
someone to watch me make the car go sideways to tell me how sideways I

am...
Or maybe I need to practice a lot. On an empty runway. :P



Tiff favours a bit of handbrake to loosen the back end and high corner

entry
speed to keep it there.

RWD is much more biddable and controllable IMHO.


I noticed when I had about 5 minutes of driving a Caterham on grass... I
doubt I'll be getting a Caterham soon though.


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Old July 9th 03, 11:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default *Really* sideways in an FWD car?


"Doki" wrote in message
...

John Fitzgerald wrote in message
...

"Doki" wrote in message
...
I watched the video of Tiff Needel driving the Ford Puma around a wet

track
again today. He got the car massively sideways (I'd say about the same

as
he
got the RWD M5). Any ideas on how he managed it? P'raps I need to get
someone to watch me make the car go sideways to tell me how sideways I

am...
Or maybe I need to practice a lot. On an empty runway. :P



Tiff favours a bit of handbrake to loosen the back end and high corner

entry
speed to keep it there.

RWD is much more biddable and controllable IMHO.


I noticed when I had about 5 minutes of driving a Caterham on grass... I
doubt I'll be getting a Caterham soon though.



Build a locost - you know you want to..........go on go on go on go
on.............


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Old July 9th 03, 11:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Doki
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John Fitzgerald wrote in message
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"Doki" wrote in message
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I noticed when I had about 5 minutes of driving a Caterham on grass... I
doubt I'll be getting a Caterham soon though.



Build a locost - you know you want to..........go on go on go on go
on.............


I might do it this year, got a BFO shed I can work in, and a fair bit of
time. How many hours does it take to build (obviously this is going to be
rather variable)?


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Old July 9th 03, 11:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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"John Fitzgerald" wrote in message ...

"Doki" wrote in message
...

John Fitzgerald wrote in message
...

"Doki" wrote in message
...
I watched the video of Tiff Needel driving the Ford Puma around a wet
track
again today. He got the car massively sideways (I'd say about the same

as
he
got the RWD M5). Any ideas on how he managed it? P'raps I need to get
someone to watch me make the car go sideways to tell me how sideways I
am...
Or maybe I need to practice a lot. On an empty runway. :P



Tiff favours a bit of handbrake to loosen the back end and high corner

entry
speed to keep it there.

RWD is much more biddable and controllable IMHO.


I noticed when I had about 5 minutes of driving a Caterham on grass... I
doubt I'll be getting a Caterham soon though.



Build a locost - you know you want to..........go on go on go on go
on.............


Build a westy Megabussa.


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Old July 9th 03, 11:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Doki
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Doki wrote in message
...
I watched the video of Tiff Needel driving the Ford Puma around a wet

track
again today. He got the car massively sideways (I'd say about the same as

he
got the RWD M5). Any ideas on how he managed it? P'raps I need to get
someone to watch me make the car go sideways to tell me how sideways I

am...
Or maybe I need to practice a lot. On an empty runway. :P


Where exactly could I practice becoming sideways? I imagine they don't take
kindly to it on trackdays, and the nearest car park isn't exactly the
brightest idea in the world.


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Old July 9th 03, 11:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
John Fitzgerald
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Default *Really* sideways in an FWD car?


"Depresion" wrote in message
...

"John Fitzgerald" wrote in message

...

"Doki" wrote in message
...

John Fitzgerald wrote in message
...

"Doki" wrote in message
...
I watched the video of Tiff Needel driving the Ford Puma around a

wet
track
again today. He got the car massively sideways (I'd say about the

same
as
he
got the RWD M5). Any ideas on how he managed it? P'raps I need to

get
someone to watch me make the car go sideways to tell me how

sideways I
am...
Or maybe I need to practice a lot. On an empty runway. :P



Tiff favours a bit of handbrake to loosen the back end and high

corner
entry
speed to keep it there.

RWD is much more biddable and controllable IMHO.

I noticed when I had about 5 minutes of driving a Caterham on grass...

I
doubt I'll be getting a Caterham soon though.



Build a locost - you know you want to..........go on go on go on go
on.............


Build a westy Megabussa.



Or a Locost CBR1000 - 90% of the fun for 20% of the cost. A locost chassis
is a direct 100% rip-off of a live axle westfield chassis. Mine is an IRS
chassis.


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Old July 9th 03, 11:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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John Fitzgerald wrote in message
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"Depresion" wrote in message
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"John Fitzgerald" wrote in message

...

"Doki" wrote in message
...

John Fitzgerald wrote in message
...

"Doki" wrote in message
...
I watched the video of Tiff Needel driving the Ford Puma around

a
wet
track
again today. He got the car massively sideways (I'd say about

the
same
as
he
got the RWD M5). Any ideas on how he managed it? P'raps I need

to
get
someone to watch me make the car go sideways to tell me how

sideways I
am...
Or maybe I need to practice a lot. On an empty runway. :P



Tiff favours a bit of handbrake to loosen the back end and high

corner
entry
speed to keep it there.

RWD is much more biddable and controllable IMHO.

I noticed when I had about 5 minutes of driving a Caterham on

grass...
I
doubt I'll be getting a Caterham soon though.



Build a locost - you know you want to..........go on go on go on go
on.............


Build a westy Megabussa.



Or a Locost CBR1000 - 90% of the fun for 20% of the cost. A locost chassis
is a direct 100% rip-off of a live axle westfield chassis. Mine is an IRS
chassis.


If I build a Locost, can I be a cheeky git and nick the plans for an IRS cha
ssis?


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Old July 10th 03, 12:03 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
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Default *Really* sideways in an FWD car?


"Doki" wrote in message
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Where exactly could I practice becoming sideways? I imagine they don't

take
kindly to it on trackdays, and the nearest car park isn't exactly the
brightest idea in the world.



Nice big empty round-abouts are my favourite :-)

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Old July 10th 03, 12:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Tim S Kemp
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My 405 takes a lot of provoking, especially on the 205 tyres to get it to
slide anywhere, sideways takes deliberate and excessive intent.


pass me the keys....


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Old July 10th 03, 12:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.modifications
Tim S Kemp
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:34:36 +0100, Doki wrote:


Where exactly could I practice becoming sideways? I imagine they don't
take
kindly to it on trackdays, and the nearest car park isn't exactly the
brightest idea in the world.


Skid pan, deserted airfield, M6 in rush hour...


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