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Old June 29th 09, 03:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Peter smith
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Righto I bought a car for a friend who has a provisional license. I have
insurance for my car, and to driver other cars with owners permission.

The car tax runs out tommorow, can I tax the car with my insurance
document. It has a new MOT. The old owner did not have the reknewal
letter (lost it) and my friends insurance was done this morning online
and will take up a maximum of 14 days to arrive.

As it runs out tommorow and is parked on apublic street I'm in a bit of
a bind.

Advice welcomed.
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Old June 29th 09, 04:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Chris Whelan
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:27:40 +0100, Peter smith wrote:

Righto I bought a car for a friend who has a provisional license. I have
insurance for my car, and to driver other cars with owners permission.

The car tax runs out tommorow, can I tax the car with my insurance
document. It has a new MOT. The old owner did not have the reknewal
letter (lost it) and my friends insurance was done this morning online
and will take up a maximum of 14 days to arrive.

As it runs out tommorow and is parked on apublic street I'm in a bit of
a bind.

Advice welcomed.


Extremely unlikely, although the exact interpretation of the law seems to
depend on the mood of the issuing clerk!

If you think about it, all the time you are driving your car, your
friend's car probably wouldn't be covered.

Although 14 days is quoted for the cover note to arrive, it's likely to
be sooner than that. In the meantime, strictly speaking, your friend must
arrange for off-road storage.

Chris

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Old June 29th 09, 05:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Miike G
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"Peter smith" wrote in message
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Righto I bought a car for a friend who has a provisional license. I have
insurance for my car, and to driver other cars with owners permission.

The car tax runs out tommorow, can I tax the car with my insurance
document. It has a new MOT.


AFAIA unless you're a trader the insurance certiifcate and registered keeper
must be in the same name, so assuming it has or will be registered in your
friends name, you wont be able to tax it using your certificate..

The old owner did not have the reknewal
letter (lost it) and my friends insurance was done this morning online and
will take up a maximum of 14 days to arrive.

As it runs out tommorow and is parked on apublic street I'm in a bit of a
bind.


Unless you can drive it to an off street parking place before the tax runs
out, I can only suggest you have the car picked up by a recovery Co, or
possibly by a trader with trade plates.

Mike.


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Old June 29th 09, 05:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Nick Finnigan
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Peter smith wrote:
Righto I bought a car for a friend who has a provisional license. I have
insurance for my car, and to driver other cars with owners permission.

The car tax runs out tomorow, can I tax the car with my insurance
document. It has a new MOT. The old owner did not have the renewal
letter (lost it) and my friends insurance was done this morning online
and will take up a maximum of 14 days to arrive.


Nope, and you couldn't even with the old renewal.

As it runs out tomorow and is parked on a public street I'm in a bit of
a bind.


Move it off road if you can. Don't SORN it. Tax it asap with your
friends insurance.

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Old June 29th 09, 07:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Cicero
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Default Taxing a car ?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:27:40 +0100, Peter smith wrote:

Righto I bought a car for a friend who has a provisional license. I have
insurance for my car, and to driver other cars with owners permission.

The car tax runs out tommorow, can I tax the car with my insurance
document. It has a new MOT. The old owner did not have the reknewal letter
(lost it) and my friends insurance was done this morning online and will
take up a maximum of 14 days to arrive.

As it runs out tommorow and is parked on apublic street I'm in a bit of a
bind.

Advice welcomed.

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I recently taxed my Sorned car at my local Post Office which has a direct
electronic link to DVLA. It appears that if you have the MOT certificate
there is a link via DVLA to an insurance database, so provided that the
insurance policy is in force the certificate isn't required at the Post
Office.

I'm not sure about this, but it's worth asking at your local Post Office.
It's possible that I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure that the clerk only
asked for the MOT certificate.

Cic.
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Old June 29th 09, 07:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
AstraVanMann[_2_]
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"Cicero" wrote:
I recently taxed my Sorned car at my local Post Office which has a direct
electronic link to DVLA. It appears that if you have the MOT certificate
there is a link via DVLA to an insurance database, so provided that the
insurance policy is in force the certificate isn't required at the Post
Office.

I'm not sure about this, but it's worth asking at your local Post Office.
It's possible that I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure that the clerk only
asked for the MOT certificate.


In theory, but it all depends on how quickly it gets added to the database.
Be best to give it at least a couple of days.

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Old June 29th 09, 09:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Conor[_3_]
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Default Taxing a car ?

In article , Peter smith says...

Righto I bought a car for a friend who has a provisional license. I have
insurance for my car, and to driver other cars with owners permission.

The car tax runs out tommorow, can I tax the car with my insurance
document.


No.


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Old June 29th 09, 10:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
DavidR
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Default Taxing a car ?

"Peter smith" wrote

As it runs out tommorow and is parked on apublic street I'm in a bit of a
bind.

Advice welcomed.


The end of the month is not a drop dead date. Provided you don't try to skip
a month, assume 2 weeks grace.


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Old June 29th 09, 11:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
Adrian C[_2_]
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Default Taxing a car ?

Cicero wrote:

I recently taxed my Sorned car at my local Post Office which has a direct
electronic link to DVLA. It appears that if you have the MOT certificate
there is a link via DVLA to an insurance database, so provided that the
insurance policy is in force the certificate isn't required at the Post
Office.

I'm not sure about this, but it's worth asking at your local Post Office.
It's possible that I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure that the clerk only
asked for the MOT certificate.

Cic.


I think you may have that the otherway round. For me taxing a previously
SORN car the presentation of the MOT certificate was NOT required - the
PO clerk was only interested in seeing the cert of insurance.

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Old June 29th 09, 11:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc
PCPaul
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Default Taxing a car ?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:08:44 +0100, DavidR wrote:

"Peter smith" wrote

As it runs out tommorow and is parked on apublic street I'm in a bit of
a bind.

Advice welcomed.


The end of the month is not a drop dead date. Provided you don't try to
skip a month, assume 2 weeks grace.


No. AFAIK That gets you out of the automatic £80 fine for having a gap in
tax/SORN, but you would still be liable for not displaying a tax disc on
a car on the public highway.

Some insurance companys will email a cover note your friend could print
out and use.

You/he could also go to someone like dayinsure.com to get short term
insurance on that vehicle in his name for a day or so, although their FAQ
says this:

=====
72. Can I get road tax on line using day insure
Back to Questions

Yes, Dayinsure short term insurance certificate can be used to purchase
Road Tax. The law has not yet caught up with common practise and
therefore we cannot guarantee acceptance at all DVLA and Post offices.
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....so it looks like it could be a sticky way to do it.

I'd get it off the road any which way you can before the tax runs out,
while getting your friend to hassle his insurance co. for an electronic
cover note.
 




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