md1jrw wrote:

The point of my original post was my total amazement that BMW would
have such a totally crap system in a brand new £45K car. The car
itself is great and enormous fun to drive, which simply serves to
highlight how out of place the satnav system is.

Which is why some cars are now coming with docks for Garmin / TomTom. My
Garmin updates are £60, most OE updates are over £100. Maps go out of date,
POIs go out of date. I'd recommend to anyone who drives a lot to get a
non-integrated nav.

I notice that Kenwood have licensed Garmin's software for their new head
units, let's hope the car manufacturers can do deals with Garmin / TomTom
and improve their systems too.

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:14:46 +0100, Mike Lane wrote:

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:01:59 +0100, md1jrw wrote
(in article
):

What I hated about the TomTom was having to pack it away and carry it
after
parking because as sure as eggs are eggs, if you don't remove it, some
thieving scuffer will break into your car and relieve you of it.

My Garmin sits on the dashboard in a friction mount. When I park I
just put it somewhere out of sight.

Aside from that, TomTom is great and IME by far the best.

What makes Tomtom the best? What other makes have you tried?



The only differnce seems to be the UI. I've tried several in car ones, a
couple of Garmins & a Navman, the tomtom seemed by the far the easiest to
reroute on & had the simplest traffic updates. But that was a year ago so
it may have moved on. The Nokia maps seems to be the worst.

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:29:33 +0100, Tim S Kemp wrote
(in article ) :

md1jrw wrote:

The point of my original post was my total amazement that BMW would
have such a totally crap system in a brand new £45K car. The car
itself is great and enormous fun to drive, which simply serves to
highlight how out of place the satnav system is.

Which is why some cars are now coming with docks for Garmin / TomTom. My
Garmin updates are £60,

As much as that? My last Garmin update (City Navigator for all of
Europe) was $75. With VAT it came to around £45

most OE updates are over £100. Maps go out of date, POIs go out of
date. I'd recommend to anyone who drives a lot to get a
non-integrated nav.

I quite agree. My last car which I changed 3 years ago had an
integrated sat. nav. It was quite a primitive unit by today's
standards and as you say, the map updates were horribly expensive.
After 3 years they lost interest and stopped producing updates
altogether. That's when I bought a Garmin and I've never looked back.

--
Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane

The point of my original post was my total amazement that BMW would
have such a totally crap system in a brand new £45K car. The car
itself is great and enormous fun to drive, which simply serves to
highlight how out of place the satnav system is.


Yes, I understand your point even if there are a lot of sarky buggers who
don't. You're prepared to put up with the bad points because you like the
good points - but why have so many bad points? is what you're saying.
Rob Graham