Krustov wrote:

Quite correct, but I don't think that was the point of Krusty's argument,
which I think was to get more money into "local shops" rather than
supermarkets..


Wrong .

If the big supermarkets ever see that as being any sort of serious
threat to their yearly turnover or customer loyaly - they would just
start to give out petrol tokens for every x amount you spend .

No they wouldn't, they'd start taking over all the local shops. Which
might explain why Tesco is busy doing exactly that.

"Krustov" wrote in message
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Mike P
Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:33:39 +0100


Ah, but my supermarket is nearer than the "local" shop.

How can the supermarket be NEARER than the "local shop"? Surely it can
only ever be as close AS the "local shop", because when it's the nearest
shop it is the "local shop"?

Quite correct, but I don't think that was the point of Krusty's argument,
which I think was to get more money into "local shops" rather than
supermarkets..


Wrong .

If the big supermarkets ever see that as being any sort of serious
threat to their yearly turnover or customer loyaly - they would just
start to give out petrol tokens for every x amount you spend .

You mean like the ones Tesco (the only one I know about) already do? 5p per
litre off at some supermarkets.


And yes - these petrol tokens could only be used at the supermarket
petrol station .

Like the ones Tesco give out :-) It's a ****er that they only accept them at
full stores though, not the tesco express stations. I used to get one every
week, but would have had to drive to Amersham from Wycombe to use it - not
worth the time or fuel to get there as it would only save me £3.00 on a full
tank


Even people who dont have a car would be given the petrol tokens as they
could give them to their family - or in some cases even to pay the taxi
on the way home .

Still using a car though aren't they, so no decrease in pollution/traffic
etc.

Mke P

"Krustov" wrote in message
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As local corner shops cant sell things as cheap as the big supermarkets
can - then as fuel costs increase - then the less you will save by
driving to the supermarket and back unless your doing a big weekly
shopping or whatever .

So , If you just need a 6-12 items , Then it could actually be cheaper
walking to a local corner shop to get what you want even if the items in
the local corner shop have a higher price tag .

Would you agree or disagree with that ? .

And if you do agree with it - then that must mean that the price of
petrol going up every week can only be a good thing - doesnt it .




Large "out of town" super-man-markets receive their goods via 37.5 tonne
tractor/arctic lorries with the inventory on pallets.

Small shops rarely take deliveries by lorries on such scale.

The large shops have the enormous advantage of economies of scale.

It is probably more fuel efficient to send 12 tractor/arctics to one Tesco
than the equal amount of goods/tonnage/material in 24 or 48 smaller sized
vehicles to many destinations.

Large Tesco's also have large storage areas, reservoirs and staging space.
Piddly shops don't.

Can't see your theory being so Krusty.

"Light of Aria" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Large "out of town" super-man-markets receive their goods via 37.5 tonne
tractor/arctic lorries with the inventory on pallets.

Small shops rarely take deliveries by lorries on such scale.

I must be imagining the artic that delivers most mornings to the small
Budgens down the road from us. Next time there's such a figment of my
imagination completely blocking the road, I'll just try to drive through
it, shall I?

Or how about the bloody ginormous rigid-plus-trailer that delivers to the
florists?

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"Light of Aria" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Large "out of town" super-man-markets receive their goods via 37.5 tonne
tractor/arctic lorries with the inventory on pallets.

Small shops rarely take deliveries by lorries on such scale.

I must be imagining the artic that delivers most mornings to the small
Budgens down the road from us. Next time there's such a figment of my
imagination completely blocking the road, I'll just try to drive through
it, shall I?


In your case, yes. Please do "pass" through the vehicle, preferably with as
much velocity as you can attain.




Or how about the bloody ginormous rigid-plus-trailer that delivers to the
florists?


I've seen such vehicles too. And I think it's very anti-social of them to do
so, especially as I pass them on my cycle.

Of course I understand why they do so: It's cheaper to have one 16.5 tonne
rigid with a trailer serving a region than it is to have 3 or 4 7.5 tonners
running around.

As long as it's legal for them to do so, they will.

Woe betied them though if, as in my area, we the residents groups were to
declare war on them, and then got our crack PCSO's involved.

"Light of Aria" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Large "out of town" super-man-markets receive their goods via 37.5
tonne tractor/arctic lorries with the inventory on pallets.

Small shops rarely take deliveries by lorries on such scale.

I must be imagining the artic that delivers most mornings to the small
Budgens down the road from us. Next time there's such a figment of my
imagination completely blocking the road, I'll just try to drive
through it, shall I?

In your case, yes. Please do "pass" through the vehicle, preferably with
as much velocity as you can attain.

I'll resist the temptation, since I'm fairly certain that it is real.
Which can only mean you were talking ********.

Or how about the bloody ginormous rigid-plus-trailer that delivers to
the florists?

I've seen such vehicles too. And I think it's very anti-social of them
to do so, especially as I pass them on my cycle.

Of course I understand why they do so: It's cheaper to have one 16.5
tonne rigid with a trailer serving a region than it is to have 3 or 4
7.5 tonners running around.

The flower truck is Dutch registered and signwritten. Are you suggesting
they send a bunch (see what I did?) of smaller wagons over from
Clogland? Or would you rather the costs of distributing the flowers went
up, thereby reducing the viability of the retailer?

As long as it's legal for them to do so, they will.

And why shouldn't they?

Woe betied them though if, as in my area, we the residents groups were
to declare war on them, and then got our crack PCSO's involved.

Then you'll moan like hell when your High St closes down.

Krustov wrote:

As local corner shops

... have nothing to do with recreational driving, one wonders why a
known ****wit and troll bothers to start another of his mindless
cross-posted trolls?

What's up Krusty, feeling unloved and ignored?

Good.

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"Light of Aria" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Large "out of town" super-man-markets receive their goods via 37.5
tonne tractor/arctic lorries with the inventory on pallets.

Small shops rarely take deliveries by lorries on such scale.

I must be imagining the artic that delivers most mornings to the small
Budgens down the road from us. Next time there's such a figment of my
imagination completely blocking the road, I'll just try to drive
through it, shall I?

In your case, yes. Please do "pass" through the vehicle, preferably with
as much velocity as you can attain.

I'll resist the temptation, since I'm fairly certain that it is real.
Which can only mean you were talking ********.



What ever.





Or how about the bloody ginormous rigid-plus-trailer that delivers to
the florists?

I've seen such vehicles too. And I think it's very anti-social of them
to do so, especially as I pass them on my cycle.

Of course I understand why they do so: It's cheaper to have one 16.5
tonne rigid with a trailer serving a region than it is to have 3 or 4
7.5 tonners running around.

The flower truck is Dutch registered and signwritten. Are you suggesting
they send a bunch (see what I did?) of smaller wagons over from
Clogland? Or would you rather the costs of distributing the flowers went
up, thereby reducing the viability of the retailer?

As long as it's legal for them to do so, they will.

And why shouldn't they?

Woe betied them though if, as in my area, we the residents groups were
to declare war on them, and then got our crack PCSO's involved.

Then you'll moan like hell when your High St closes down.


Join the programme.

The high street died decades ago and consumers seem happy.

This is the age of brands, consolidation, uniformity, and inter-web
connectivity.




I think there is little point in enlisting me in your cause. ;-)

"Light of Aria" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Large "out of town" super-man-markets receive their goods via 37.5
tonne tractor/arctic lorries with the inventory on pallets.

Small shops rarely take deliveries by lorries on such scale.

I must be imagining the artic that delivers most mornings to the
small Budgens down the road from us. Next time there's such a figment
of my imagination completely blocking the road, I'll just try to
drive through it, shall I?

In your case, yes. Please do "pass" through the vehicle, preferably
with as much velocity as you can attain.

I'll resist the temptation, since I'm fairly certain that it is real.
Which can only mean you were talking ********.

What ever.

Apology accepted.

As long as it's legal for them to do so, they will.

And why shouldn't they?

Lack of answer noted.

Woe betied them though if, as in my area, we the residents groups were
to declare war on them, and then got our crack PCSO's involved.

Then you'll moan like hell when your High St closes down.

Join the programme.

The high street died decades ago and consumers seem happy.

Odd. It seems to be alive, well, and regularly supplied by articulated
wagons round me.

It would seem that's "rare", though. Lucky me.

uk.media.tv.misc
Steve Firth
Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:28:35 +0100


one wonders why a
known ****wit and troll bothers to start another of his mindless
cross-posted trolls?


Does not compute .

How can i be called a troll if i dont actually troll ? .


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