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Cambelt cost ?



 
 
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Old May 14th 12, 11:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Matthews[_2_]
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Default Cambelt cost ?

Is 250 a reasonable cost for the cost of replacing a cambelt, idler,
tensioner on a 04 1.8 ford focus petrol. Also includes fitting a supplied
aux belt.

That prices includes vat and genuine ford cambelt kit, sadly the idler does
not come in the cambelt kit from ford you have to order it seperately.

Just wondering what you think of the price ?

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Old May 15th 12, 08:39 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Chris Whelan
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Default Cambelt cost ?

On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:23:07 +0100, Matthews wrote:

Is £250 a reasonable cost for the cost of replacing a cambelt, idler,
tensioner on a 04 1.8 ford focus petrol. Also includes fitting a
supplied aux belt.

That prices includes vat and genuine ford cambelt kit, sadly the idler
does not come in the cambelt kit from ford you have to order it
seperately.

Just wondering what you think of the price ?


Sounds decent to me; they are not the easiest to do.

Chris

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Old May 15th 12, 08:43 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Mrcheerful
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Default Cambelt cost ?


"Matthews" wrote in message
...
Is 250 a reasonable cost for the cost of replacing a cambelt, idler,
tensioner on a 04 1.8 ford focus petrol. Also includes fitting a supplied
aux belt.

That prices includes vat and genuine ford cambelt kit, sadly the idler
does not come in the cambelt kit from ford you have to order it
seperately.

Just wondering what you think of the price ?


good price, but you must replace the idler. if you don't then you may as
well not bother with the cambelt since it is the idler that fails first.


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Old May 15th 12, 04:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Matthews[_2_]
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Default Cambelt cost ?



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...


"Matthews" wrote in message
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Is 250 a reasonable cost for the cost of replacing a cambelt, idler,
tensioner on a 04 1.8 ford focus petrol. Also includes fitting a supplied
aux belt.

That prices includes vat and genuine ford cambelt kit, sadly the idler
does not come in the cambelt kit from ford you have to order it
seperately.

Just wondering what you think of the price ?


good price, but you must replace the idler. if you don't then you may as
well not bother with the cambelt since it is the idler that fails first.

Yeah he ordered the idler as well. He said on the on the focus the tension
and or idler go its the same level as damage as the cambelt going. He said
he has never had one in with a failed belt just the tensioners seem common.
Apartantly the belts are really thick and well made.

I geuss I'll sleep well its been done

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Old May 18th 12, 08:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Default Cambelt cost ?

......or get one of these cars that only have camchains

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/chain-cam/

I don't think it's really acceptable to use a belt that needs changing
(60k?) or fretting about and possibly writing off the engine and maybe even
the car
.....although I think some Ford engines pistons don't hit the valves when it
breaks


"Matthews" wrote in message ...



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...


"Matthews" wrote in message
...
Is 250 a reasonable cost for the cost of replacing a cambelt, idler,
tensioner on a 04 1.8 ford focus petrol. Also includes fitting a supplied
aux belt.

That prices includes vat and genuine ford cambelt kit, sadly the idler
does not come in the cambelt kit from ford you have to order it
seperately.

Just wondering what you think of the price ?


good price, but you must replace the idler. if you don't then you may as
well not bother with the cambelt since it is the idler that fails first.

Yeah he ordered the idler as well. He said on the on the focus the tension
and or idler go its the same level as damage as the cambelt going. He said
he has never had one in with a failed belt just the tensioners seem common.
Apartantly the belts are really thick and well made.

I geuss I'll sleep well its been done

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Old May 18th 12, 08:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Mrcheerful
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Default Cambelt cost ?

Bluefrog wrote:
.....or get one of these cars that only have camchains

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/chain-cam/

I don't think it's really acceptable to use a belt that needs changing
(60k?) or fretting about and possibly writing off the engine and
maybe even the car
....although I think some Ford engines pistons don't hit the valves
when it breaks


the belt on the car in question is every 100k miles or ten years, so not too
often, later models are 120k.
Replacing camchains is always more expensive than a belt.
Virtually every engine by all the major makes nowadays will bend the valves
if the belt or chain goes.
Some Ford engines from the 70s and early 80s were ok valve wise if the belt
went, but not all.


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Old May 18th 12, 10:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Bluefrog
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I think chains wear out if oil changes are neglected but there doesn't seem
to be a replacement interval - Nissan/Toyota say it will last the 'life of
the engine' (200+k miles?)
This puts it into line with internal components of a modern engine. So if
you are going to skip oil changes get a belt but then you may skip the belt
change if you're that way inclined!


"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Bluefrog wrote:
.....or get one of these cars that only have camchains

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/chain-cam/

I don't think it's really acceptable to use a belt that needs changing
(60k?) or fretting about and possibly writing off the engine and
maybe even the car
....although I think some Ford engines pistons don't hit the valves
when it breaks


the belt on the car in question is every 100k miles or ten years, so not too
often, later models are 120k.
Replacing camchains is always more expensive than a belt.
Virtually every engine by all the major makes nowadays will bend the valves
if the belt or chain goes.
Some Ford engines from the 70s and early 80s were ok valve wise if the belt
went, but not all.


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Old May 19th 12, 12:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Mike P
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Default Cambelt cost ?

On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:37:02 +0100, SteveH ventured forth with :

Mrcheerful wrote:

Virtually every engine by all the major makes nowadays will bend the
valves if the belt or chain goes.
Some Ford engines from the 70s and early 80s were ok valve wise if the
belt went, but not all.


Mk1 / Mk2 MX5 engines are non-interference, which is a relief after
years of running stuff that's super-critical on cambelt intervals.


Citroen 2.0HDi is an interference engine, but doesn't bend valves. It
breaks a couple of inexpensive rockers which the head doesn't need to
come off to replace. Whether this is designed in, or pure luck, I don't
know. I suspect the latter..



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Old May 19th 12, 12:27 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Duncan Wood[_6_]
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Default Cambelt cost ?

On Sat, 19 May 2012 00:12:07 +0100, Mike P wrote:

On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:37:02 +0100, SteveH ventured forth with :

Mrcheerful wrote:

Virtually every engine by all the major makes nowadays will bend the
valves if the belt or chain goes.
Some Ford engines from the 70s and early 80s were ok valve wise if the
belt went, but not all.


Mk1 / Mk2 MX5 engines are non-interference, which is a relief after
years of running stuff that's super-critical on cambelt intervals.


Citroen 2.0HDi is an interference engine, but doesn't bend valves. It
breaks a couple of inexpensive rockers which the head doesn't need to
come off to replace. Whether this is designed in, or pure luck, I don't
know. I suspect the latter..




The same with transit diesels
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Old May 19th 12, 08:07 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Chris Whelan
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Default Cambelt cost ?

On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:06:08 +0100, bluefrog wrote:

I think chains wear out if oil changes are neglected but there doesn't
seem to be a replacement interval - Nissan/Toyota say it will last the
'life of the engine' (200+k miles?)


Some chains only last around 100k, somewhat less than the best belt
designs. There are also other failure modes for chain systems. Tensioner
failure, and sprocket breakup are two possibilities.

Chris

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