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January 15th 12, 08:43 PM
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My mother wants to downsize from her Peugeot 307 auto. Ideally the the
next one would also have a torque converter but the problem is that when a car is described as "automatic" it is not always obvious what is fitted - ie, torque converter, CVT, automated manual... Automated manuals don't seem well regarded for smoothness, as in Toyota MMT or Honda i-shift (and she won't want to learn a particular technique). I haven't heard of driveability issues with CVT but I wonder about the durability record when the warranty has expired. Can anybody comment whether they are OK in that respect? An other question for Ford experts is that I have seen a Fiesta (previous model) described as semi automatic. The car is the ideal size but was a full auto version ever made? 
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January 15th 12, 11:58 PM
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"dr6092" wrote in message ... My mother wants to downsize from her Peugeot 307 auto. Ideally the the next one would also have a torque converter but the problem is that when a car is described as "automatic" it is not always obvious what is fitted - ie, torque converter, CVT, automated manual... Automated manuals don't seem well regarded for smoothness, as in Toyota MMT or Honda i-shift (and she won't want to learn a particular technique). I haven't heard of driveability issues with CVT but I wonder about the durability record when the warranty has expired. Can anybody comment whether they are OK in that respect? An other question for Ford experts is that I have seen a Fiesta (previous model) described as semi automatic. The car is the ideal size but was a full auto version ever made? No knowing how small she wants to go, the Hyundai i10 has a fluid torque converter for smooth changes with no loss in acceleration as you get with the Peugeot 107 automated manual gearboxes and their hesitant changes. The Hyundai has a 5 year warranty too. Gio --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120115-1, 15/01/2012 Tested on: 15/01/2012 23:58:21 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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January 16th 12, 12:58 AM
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On Jan 15, 11:58*pm, "Gio" wrote:
"dr6092" wrote in message My mother wants to downsize from her Peugeot 307 auto. Ideally the the next one would also have a torque converter but the problem is that when a car is described as "automatic" it is not always obvious what is fitted - ie, torque converter, CVT, automated manual... No knowing how small she wants to go, the Hyundai i10 has a fluid torque converter for smooth changes Useful confirmation, I suspected the Hyundai has a torque converter. Warranty, build & equipment look ideal but she hasn't knowingly seen one in the flesh yet so I am not sure whether it is a step too far. She used to have a 206 so has that size in mind (same width but a foot longer than the i10). She originally thought a 207 was a direct replacement - err, no Mum, it's the same size as the 307. Before I noticed the i10, my first idea was to try and swap for one of the last Yaris 1's.
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January 16th 12, 05:50 PM
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"dr6092" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 11:58 pm, "Gio" wrote: "dr6092" wrote in message My mother wants to downsize from her Peugeot 307 auto. Ideally the the next one would also have a torque converter but the problem is that when a car is described as "automatic" it is not always obvious what is fitted - ie, torque converter, CVT, automated manual... No knowing how small she wants to go, the Hyundai i10 has a fluid torque converter for smooth changes Useful confirmation, I suspected the Hyundai has a torque converter. Warranty, build & equipment look ideal but she hasn't knowingly seen one in the flesh yet so I am not sure whether it is a step too far. She used to have a 206 so has that size in mind (same width but a foot longer than the i10). She originally thought a 207 was a direct replacement - err, no Mum, it's the same size as the 307. Before I noticed the i10, my first idea was to try and swap for one of the last Yaris 1's. Hope you get her sorted out, the wife has an i10 auto and other than the mpg achieved, has been happy with it up to now. Gio --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120116-0, 16/01/2012 Tested on: 16/01/2012 17:54:05 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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January 16th 12, 11:46 PM
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On Jan 16, 5:50*pm, "Gio" wrote:
"dr6092" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 11:58 pm, "Gio" wrote: "dr6092" wrote in message My mother wants to downsize from her Peugeot 307 auto. Ideally the the next one would also have a torque converter but the problem is that when a car is described as "automatic" it is not always obvious what is fitted - ie, torque converter, CVT, automated manual... No knowing how small she wants to go, the Hyundai i10 has a fluid torque converter for smooth changes Useful confirmation, I suspected the Hyundai has a torque converter. Warranty, build & equipment look ideal but she hasn't knowingly seen one in the flesh yet so I am not sure whether it is a step too far. She used to have a 206 so has that size in mind (same width but a foot longer than the i10). She originally thought a 207 was a direct replacement - err, no Mum, it's the same size as the 307. Before I noticed the i10, my first idea was to try and swap for one of the last Yaris 1's. Hope you get her sorted out, the wife has an i10 auto and other than the mpg achieved, has been happy with it up to now. Thanks for the helpful advice. Before closing the shortlist, I'm still hoping someone can offer something on CVT durability... the main reason I posted here rather than on a more general cars group.
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January 17th 12, 10:06 AM
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:46:32 -0000, dr6092 wrote:
On Jan 16, 5:50 pm, "Gio" wrote: "dr6092" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 11:58 pm, "Gio" wrote: "dr6092" wrote in message My mother wants to downsize from her Peugeot 307 auto. Ideally the the next one would also have a torque converter but the problem is that when a car is described as "automatic" it is not always obvious what is fitted - ie, torque converter, CVT, automated manual... No knowing how small she wants to go, the Hyundai i10 has a fluid torque converter for smooth changes Useful confirmation, I suspected the Hyundai has a torque converter. Warranty, build & equipment look ideal but she hasn't knowingly seen one in the flesh yet so I am not sure whether it is a step too far. She used to have a 206 so has that size in mind (same width but a foot longer than the i10). She originally thought a 207 was a direct replacement - err, no Mum, it's the same size as the 307. Before I noticed the i10, my first idea was to try and swap for one of the last Yaris 1's. Hope you get her sorted out, the wife has an i10 auto and other than the mpg achieved, has been happy with it up to now. Thanks for the helpful advice. Before closing the shortlist, I'm still hoping someone can offer something on CVT durability... the main reason I posted here rather than on a more general cars group. THey seem to last as well as anything else, the early ford ones where apparently a bit less reliable, but I've not heard anyone complain about the Toyotas.
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January 17th 12, 10:12 AM
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January 18th 12, 08:30 PM
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On Jan 16, 11:46*pm, dr6092 wrote:
Before closing the shortlist, I'm still hoping someone can offer something on CVT durability... the main reason I posted here rather than on a more general cars group. Looks like from the responses, not to worry too much. Thanks
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January 18th 12, 10:42 PM
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"dr6092" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 11:46 pm, dr6092 wrote: Before closing the shortlist, I'm still hoping someone can offer something on CVT durability... the main reason I posted here rather than on a more general cars group. Looks like from the responses, not to worry too much. Thanks I hope that is the case, the snag is there is not much of a call for automatics of any kind with most owners in many countries opting for manual transmissions --with the exception of say the USA, but then they are large capacity engines. Gio --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120118-1, 18/01/2012 Tested on: 18/01/2012 22:42:40 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
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January 18th 12, 11:42 PM
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Gio wrote: I hope that is the case, the snag is there is not much of a call for automatics of any kind with most owners in many countries opting for manual transmissions --with the exception of say the USA, but then they are large capacity engines. Not so - the vast majority of executive cars in the UK are autos. Small autos used to be rare - but not these days. -- *When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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