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Old December 8th 11, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Jeff[_8_]
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Default Groaning when pulling away

My focus (1.8 petrol 2004) has started making groaning noise as I pull away
from cold. After its hot the noise is gone.

It sounds as though it is coming from the drivers wheel area I could be
wrong or it could be vibrating possibly form somewhere else masking its true
location.

How do I determine what this sound is or where it is coming from.

Its definitely a groaning noise not a a squeak and only present during pull
of when cold till the car gets to tems, it then disappears.

Any ideas what it could be or how I proceed from here.

I'm armed with a basica tool kit and a haynes


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Old December 8th 11, 07:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Nige[_6_]
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Your wife's not in the car, is she?

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Old December 8th 11, 08:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Adrian C[_2_]
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On 08/12/2011 15:40, Jeff wrote:
My focus (1.8 petrol 2004) has started making groaning noise as I pull away
from cold. After its hot the noise is gone.

It sounds as though it is coming from the drivers wheel area I could be
wrong or it could be vibrating possibly form somewhere else masking its true
location.


Power steering pump moaning?

Try from cold going in a straight direction and see if that makes the
same noise. I had that on a Laguna (I), and leaks / corosion in the
steering system.

--
Adrian C

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Old December 9th 11, 07:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
David[_10_]
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On 08/12/2011 15:40, Jeff wrote:
My focus (1.8 petrol 2004) has started making groaning noise as I pull away
from cold. After its hot the noise is gone.

It sounds as though it is coming from the drivers wheel area I could be
wrong or it could be vibrating possibly form somewhere else masking its true
location.

How do I determine what this sound is or where it is coming from.

Its definitely a groaning noise not a a squeak and only present during pull
of when cold till the car gets to tems, it then disappears.

Any ideas what it could be or how I proceed from here.

I'm armed with a basica tool kit and a haynes



Suspension, A / R bar bushes ?

David
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Old December 10th 11, 05:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Jeff[_8_]
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"Nige" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Your wife's not in the car, is she?


Passed away 6 months ago.


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Old December 10th 11, 05:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Jeff[_8_]
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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On 08/12/2011 15:40, Jeff wrote:
My focus (1.8 petrol 2004) has started making groaning noise as I pull
away
from cold. After its hot the noise is gone.

It sounds as though it is coming from the drivers wheel area I could be
wrong or it could be vibrating possibly form somewhere else masking its
true
location.


Power steering pump moaning?

Try from cold going in a straight direction and see if that makes the same
noise. I had that on a Laguna (I), and leaks / corosion in the steering
system.



Hi Adrian,

Thats an interesting idea, added to list to check, thanks.

If I go in a straight line an it makes the noise or doesn't what would that
indicate.

Although not sure if thats is relevant the pump could still be on its way
otu possibly.

I had a look through the haynes at the process of removal and it looks
simple enough (famous last words) but it does mention a special tool needed,
I'm sure I can improvise something like Mgyver.


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Old December 10th 11, 05:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Jeff[_8_]
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"David" wrote in message
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On 08/12/2011 15:40, Jeff wrote:
My focus (1.8 petrol 2004) has started making groaning noise as I pull
away
from cold. After its hot the noise is gone.

It sounds as though it is coming from the drivers wheel area I could be
wrong or it could be vibrating possibly form somewhere else masking its
true
location.

How do I determine what this sound is or where it is coming from.

Its definitely a groaning noise not a a squeak and only present during
pull
of when cold till the car gets to tems, it then disappears.

Any ideas what it could be or how I proceed from here.

I'm armed with a basica tool kit and a haynes



Suspension, A / R bar bushes ?

David


Hi David,

Would that only produce the noise when cold.

Definitely worth having a look as that looks relatively cheap and straight
forward.

I know sounds like this can't be good and don't want to ignore it before its
call the RAC time so I think its best to start poking around tomorrow. Its
just difficuling try and pin point such noises/faults thats always the
hardest part I guess well not always from past experience.

What we do know is it occurs when cold, and when going forward only and for
only 10 mins till the cars up to operating temp. So I guess as Adrian
mentioned a possibl cause could be the PAS pump, the ARB. I wonder would a
worn bush cause this perhaps causing the wheel at slow speed wobble in to
causing disc and pads contact. Giving the wheel a wobble may help figure if
the bush is worn, but I think they squeal and are noticeable on turning ?



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Old December 10th 11, 08:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Default Groaning when pulling away

On 10/12/2011 17:44, Jeff wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Your wife's not in the car, is she?


Passed away 6 months ago.


Take her out of the boot?

--
Douglas

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Old December 11th 11, 12:30 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Rob[_15_]
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Default Groaning when pulling away

On 11/12/2011 7:04 AM, Douglas Payne wrote:
On 10/12/2011 17:44, Jeff wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote in message
...

Your wife's not in the car, is she?


Passed away 6 months ago.


Take her out of the boot?


True story

I picked up a coffin from my mate, who BTW was an undertaker, and the
coffins were display units which were NLA so they dispersed of then -
solid timber quality stuff.

Anyway placed one in the back of my Toyota Corolla van and had the
tailgate open as it was too long,

Someone did see me, but the week prior my mother in law had died, being
an inquisitive person asked about the coffin in the back. All I said
that I was taking her for a drive.
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Old December 11th 11, 11:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
David[_10_]
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Default Groaning when pulling away

On 10/12/2011 17:57, Jeff wrote:
wrote in message
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On 08/12/2011 15:40, Jeff wrote:
My focus (1.8 petrol 2004) has started making groaning noise as I pull
away
from cold. After its hot the noise is gone.

It sounds as though it is coming from the drivers wheel area I could be
wrong or it could be vibrating possibly form somewhere else masking its
true
location.

How do I determine what this sound is or where it is coming from.

Its definitely a groaning noise not a a squeak and only present during
pull
of when cold till the car gets to tems, it then disappears.

Any ideas what it could be or how I proceed from here.

I'm armed with a basica tool kit and a haynes



Suspension, A / R bar bushes ?

David


Hi David,

Would that only produce the noise when cold.


Try bouncing the car up and down at the front and rear before starting
and listen for any groan, or noises.
I've known bushes to squeak when old, lubing them with a silicon grease
has worked for me. YMMV.


Definitely worth having a look as that looks relatively cheap and straight
forward.

I know sounds like this can't be good and don't want to ignore it before its
call the RAC time so I think its best to start poking around tomorrow. Its
just difficuling try and pin point such noises/faults thats always the
hardest part I guess well not always from past experience.

What we do know is it occurs when cold, and when going forward only and for
only 10 mins till the cars up to operating temp.


Ah, I didn't notice that.

So I guess as Adrian
mentioned a possibl cause could be the PAS pump,


Then it would also do it in reverse

the ARB. I wonder would a
worn bush cause this perhaps causing the wheel at slow speed wobble in to
causing disc and pads contact. Giving the wheel a wobble may help figure if
the bush is worn, but I think they squeal and are noticeable on turning ?




Have you got wheel wobble too?

regards

David
 




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