A neighbour called this morning to say the driver's door on my '97 BMW 528
was open. As it was, and the car had been gone through and the change I
keep in the box behind the handbrake gone - only about 5 quid or so for
parking meters etc.

This isn't the first time this has happened. More like a dozen times or so
over the 10 years I've owned the car.

The difference is this time I am positive it was locked - I arrived home
about 24.00 with a passenger, and after leaving the car he remembered he
had a coat in the boot. I went to get it and only opened the boot using
the remote, and checked it was locked after closing.

So whoever it was had a means of opening the car without any signs being
left.

The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With the
window open.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 29/08/2010 13:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
A neighbour called this morning to say the driver's door on my '97 BMW 528
was open. As it was, and the car had been gone through and the change I
keep in the box behind the handbrake gone - only about 5 quid or so for
parking meters etc.

This isn't the first time this has happened. More like a dozen times or so
over the 10 years I've owned the car.

The difference is this time I am positive it was locked - I arrived home
about 24.00 with a passenger, and after leaving the car he remembered he
had a coat in the boot. I went to get it and only opened the boot using
the remote, and checked it was locked after closing.

So whoever it was had a means of opening the car without any signs being
left.

The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With the
window open.


Someone has intercepted and recorded the code from your remote (assuming
you used the remote to lock the car)? If so, they can then replay the
code and unlock your car.

--
Howard Neil

On 29/08/2010 14:58, Howard Neil wrote:



The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as
both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With the
window open.


Someone has intercepted and recorded the code from your remote (assuming
you used the remote to lock the car)? If so, they can then replay the
code and unlock your car.


Seems a bit of overkill for £5 worth of change...if a scrote has the
money to buy such a device and the patience to hang around, capture the
code - he is going to look for a better target...

More likely is that there is some simple flaw with the vehicle
electronics and they are failing 'open' - I had a Laguna that would open
of its own accord randomly.
I have also heard 'pub chat' tales of cars that open if you thump then
in the right place - fools the impact sensor there has been a crash and
opens the doors to let the passengers out.

There are also simpler ways into vehicles - my mate works at Renault
trucks and was telling me that for most models of the £200k trucks he
works on, there is a simple way to get in - one involves pulling back
the grill and touching a pin on the ECU to ground - all the doors open
and the alarm turns off...

On 29/08/2010 13:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
A neighbour called this morning to say the driver's door on my '97 BMW 528
was open. As it was, and the car had been gone through and the change I
keep in the box behind the handbrake gone - only about 5 quid or so for
parking meters etc.

This isn't the first time this has happened. More like a dozen times or so
over the 10 years I've owned the car.

The difference is this time I am positive it was locked - I arrived home
about 24.00 with a passenger, and after leaving the car he remembered he
had a coat in the boot. I went to get it and only opened the boot using
the remote, and checked it was locked after closing.

So whoever it was had a means of opening the car without any signs being
left.

The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With the
window open.

Similar probs with BMW
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...php?p=18566192

It isn't solved by the end, but he has got down to a few items related
to door latch.

Reading between the lines I think they are suggesting that you lock the
car and walk away, but the car decides it has a problem with a door
sensor - believes it isn't locked properly, or the door actually shut
properly -- and so the car re-opens..

On 29/08/2010 13:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
A neighbour called this morning to say the driver's door on my '97 BMW 528
was open. As it was, and the car had been gone through and the change I
keep in the box behind the handbrake gone - only about 5 quid or so for
parking meters etc.

This isn't the first time this has happened. More like a dozen times or so
over the 10 years I've owned the car.

The difference is this time I am positive it was locked - I arrived home
about 24.00 with a passenger, and after leaving the car he remembered he
had a coat in the boot. I went to get it and only opened the boot using
the remote, and checked it was locked after closing.

So whoever it was had a means of opening the car without any signs being
left.

The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With the
window open.


http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...5-series-6.htm

Doors: If the central locking system unlocks itself after being locked
or locks itself after being unlocked, the actuators could be defective
or the trunk lock may need to be adjusted. (1992-93)

On 29/08/2010 15:07, Paul wrote:
On 29/08/2010 14:58, Howard Neil wrote:



The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as
both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With
the
window open.


Someone has intercepted and recorded the code from your remote (assuming
you used the remote to lock the car)? If so, they can then replay the
code and unlock your car.


Seems a bit of overkill for £5 worth of change...if a scrote has the
money to buy such a device and the patience to hang around, capture the
code - he is going to look for a better target...

They don't know what is in the car when opening it. I have known many
thefts from motor vehicles worth a lot less than £5. Also the same
scanning device would be used many times over.


--
Howard Neil

Paul wrote:

On 29/08/2010 13:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
A neighbour called this morning to say the driver's door on my
'97 BMW 528 was open. As it was, and the car had been gone
through and the change I keep in the box behind the handbrake
gone - only about 5 quid or so for parking meters etc.

This isn't the first time this has happened. More like a dozen
times or so over the 10 years I've owned the car.

The difference is this time I am positive it was locked - I
arrived home about 24.00 with a passenger, and after leaving the
car he remembered he had a coat in the boot. I went to get it and
only opened the boot using the remote, and checked it was locked
after closing.

So whoever it was had a means of opening the car without any
signs being left.

The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the
same neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go
off as both he and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom
at the front. With the window open.

Similar probs with BMW
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...php?p=18566192

It isn't solved by the end, but he has got down to a few items
related to door latch.

Reading between the lines I think they are suggesting that you lock
the car and walk away, but the car decides it has a problem with a
door sensor - believes it isn't locked properly, or the door
actually shut properly -- and so the car re-opens..

My citoen van does that , if the load moves slightly and touches the
slideing door or you pull the bottom of the door all the doors unlock
and an open rear door warning appears

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
A neighbour called this morning to say the driver's door on my '97 BMW 528
was open. As it was, and the car had been gone through and the change I
keep in the box behind the handbrake gone - only about 5 quid or so for
parking meters etc.

This isn't the first time this has happened. More like a dozen times or so
over the 10 years I've owned the car.

The difference is this time I am positive it was locked - I arrived home
about 24.00 with a passenger, and after leaving the car he remembered he
had a coat in the boot. I went to get it and only opened the boot using
the remote, and checked it was locked after closing.

So whoever it was had a means of opening the car without any signs being
left.

The car is parked in the street, and this time near outside the same
neighbour's house. He is pretty certain the alarm didn't go off as both he
and his wife are light sleepers, and their bedroom at the front. With the
window open.


as with all the other possibilities mentioned, do you put your car keys in
your pocket? I had a hire pug 307 for a few weeks after someone had written
off a car, and kept discovering the same thing.. one time late at night
watching TV, I moved position because the cat jumped on my lap, and I saw
the orange flash outside.. as from then, I have never kept my car keys in
my pocket in the house..

of course if you don't this is not anything to consider, but I have also
heard of door solenoids causing the same on some cars..

then all you need is the opportunist, or drunk who's spent their cab fare
home.. etc..

Good luck with finding the issue..

LL

On 29/08/2010 16:55, loopy livernose wrote:



as with all the other possibilities mentioned, do you put your car keys
in your pocket? I had a hire pug 307 for a few weeks after someone had
written off a car, and kept discovering the same thing.. one time late
at night watching TV, I moved position because the cat jumped on my lap,
and I saw the orange flash outside.. as from then, I have never kept my
car keys in my pocket in the house..

of course if you don't this is not anything to consider, but I have also
heard of door solenoids causing the same on some cars..

then all you need is the opportunist, or drunk who's spent their cab
fare home.. etc..

Good luck with finding the issue..

LL

Reminds me of my first car with fob locking, must have been well over 20
years ago and it was a real novelty back then ...
I was in the pub with the lads and pointed at my car in the carpark -
look, how cool is this - unlock - and it did from a good 40 yards away.
Only, it wouldn't relock and I had to walk out right up to the car to
get it to lock...
wouldn't have been that embarrassing - but it was *****ing* down...

On 29/08/10 16:55, loopy livernose wrote:


as with all the other possibilities mentioned, do you put your car keys
in your pocket? I had a hire pug 307 for a few weeks after someone had
written off a car, and kept discovering the same thing.. one time late
at night watching TV, I moved position because the cat jumped on my lap,
and I saw the orange flash outside.. as from then, I have never kept my
car keys in my pocket in the house..


I've done that with my Leon- sat on the keys and found all the windows
open through the unlock button getting held down.