Hi,

With all the bad weather we've had recently, what is the best screen
wash to use? I buy the concentrated variety and dilute it myself but
even though it claims it won't freeze below minus x degrees (I can't
remember what X is) the pipes were frozen. I did wonder about using it
undiluted but I can see two problems: it would be expensive and it
would look like a chemical toilet spraying dark blue all over the
screen!

Is any make better than the others or do they all contain the same
ingredients in the same strength?

TIA

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:13:32 +0000, Fred
wrote:

Hi,

With all the bad weather we've had recently, what is the best screen
wash to use? I buy the concentrated variety and dilute it myself but
even though it claims it won't freeze below minus x degrees (I can't
remember what X is) the pipes were frozen. I did wonder about using it
undiluted but I can see two problems: it would be expensive and it
would look like a chemical toilet spraying dark blue all over the
screen!

Is any make better than the others or do they all contain the same
ingredients in the same strength?

TIA

Seem to remember a couple of months ago Halfords Pink stuff getting
plaudits .

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:13:32 +0000, Fred wrote:

Hi,

With all the bad weather we've had recently, what is the best screen
wash to use? I buy the concentrated variety and dilute it myself but
even though it claims it won't freeze below minus x degrees (I can't
remember what X is) the pipes were frozen. I did wonder about using it
undiluted but I can see two problems: it would be expensive and it would
look like a chemical toilet spraying dark blue all over the screen!

Is any make better than the others or do they all contain the same
ingredients in the same strength?

TIA

Do what it says on the bottle; some concentrated ones can be used
undiluted.

You can also add up to 10% methylated spirits. The normal place it
freezes is at the nozzles however, and nothing seems to prevent that
under extreme conditions except for heated nozzles.

Chris

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:47:36 +0000, A.Clews wrote:

Thus spake Chris Whelan ) unto the
assembled multitudes:

Do what it says on the bottle; some concentrated ones can be used
undiluted.

You can also add up to 10% methylated spirits. The normal place it
freezes is at the nozzles however, and nothing seems to prevent that
under extreme conditions except for heated nozzles.

It's even worse if it freezes on the windscreen as you operate the
washer just as you set off, as has happened to me on a few careless
occasions!

Do you mean it's worse if you use meths? Or if you have heated jets?

Either way, it's difficult to imagine any impact on screen freezing.

Chris

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On 2010-03-08, Chris Whelan wrote:
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:47:36 +0000, A.Clews wrote:

Thus spake Chris Whelan ) unto the
assembled multitudes:

Do what it says on the bottle; some concentrated ones can be used
undiluted.

You can also add up to 10% methylated spirits. The normal place it
freezes is at the nozzles however, and nothing seems to prevent that
under extreme conditions except for heated nozzles.

It's even worse if it freezes on the windscreen as you operate the
washer just as you set off, as has happened to me on a few careless
occasions!

Do you mean it's worse if you use meths? Or if you have heated jets?

Either way, it's difficult to imagine any impact on screen freezing.

It's certainly more annoying if you could see, then spray. Then
can't see or spray...

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:40:06 +0000, A.Clews wrote:

Thus spake David Taylor ) unto the assembled
multitudes:

It's even worse if it freezes on the windscreen as you operate the
washer just as you set off, as has happened to me on a few careless
occasions!

Do you mean it's worse if you use meths? Or if you have heated jets?

Either way, it's difficult to imagine any impact on screen freezing.

It's certainly more annoying if you could see, then spray. Then can't
see or spray...

Yes, that's precisely what I meant. Very annoying to have a slightly
dirty screen which I can still see out of, suddenly becoming totally
opaque as a result of the screenwash freezing during an attempt to clean
it!

Ah, OK.

Meths will definitely help prevent that.

Chris

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:40:06 +0000, A.Clews wrote:

Thus spake David Taylor ) unto the assembled
multitudes:

It's even worse if it freezes on the windscreen as you operate the
washer just as you set off, as has happened to me on a few careless
occasions!

Do you mean it's worse if you use meths? Or if you have heated jets?

Either way, it's difficult to imagine any impact on screen freezing.

It's certainly more annoying if you could see, then spray. Then can't
see or spray...

Yes, that's precisely what I meant. Very annoying to have a slightly
dirty screen which I can still see out of, suddenly becoming totally
opaque as a result of the screenwash freezing during an attempt to clean
it!

Ah, OK.

Meths will definitely help prevent that.

Will it? If the meths evaporates it will remove thermal energy from the
windscreen, causing the remaining water to freeze even more.

4 pints of warm water from the kitchen tap poured in 5 or 6 goes over the
windscreen over a period of a minute or so heats up the glass enough for the
screen to remain clear until the internal heater gets to work.

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:21:34 +0000, OG wrote:

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Meths will definitely help prevent that.

Will it? If the meths evaporates it will remove thermal energy from the
windscreen, causing the remaining water to freeze even more.

Interesting theory, but it conflicts with my real-world experience.

BTW, what is "the remaining water"?

4 pints of warm water from the kitchen tap poured in 5 or 6 goes over
the windscreen over a period of a minute or so heats up the glass enough
for the screen to remain clear until the internal heater gets to work.

How archaic!

Just switch on the heated front screen for 30 seconds before you drive
off.

Assuming you have been sensible enough to buy a car with one, of
course. ;-)

Chris

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:21:34 +0000, OG wrote:

[...]

Meths will definitely help prevent that.

Will it? If the meths evaporates it will remove thermal energy from the
windscreen, causing the remaining water to freeze even more.

Interesting theory, but it conflicts with my real-world experience.

BTW, what is "the remaining water"?

4 pints of warm water from the kitchen tap poured in 5 or 6 goes over
the windscreen over a period of a minute or so heats up the glass enough
for the screen to remain clear until the internal heater gets to work.

How archaic!

Just switch on the heated front screen for 30 seconds before you drive
off.

Assuming you have been sensible enough to buy a car with one, of
course. ;-)

Chris

Last time I did that (Ford Focus) it was !!!!CRACK___!! new screen
needed.
Warm water would have been more gentle

Lol

In message , Chris Whelan
writes
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:21:34 +0000, OG wrote:

[...]

Meths will definitely help prevent that.

Will it? If the meths evaporates it will remove thermal energy from the
windscreen, causing the remaining water to freeze even more.

Interesting theory, but it conflicts with my real-world experience.

BTW, what is "the remaining water"?

4 pints of warm water from the kitchen tap poured in 5 or 6 goes over
the windscreen over a period of a minute or so heats up the glass enough
for the screen to remain clear until the internal heater gets to work.

How archaic!

Just switch on the heated front screen for 30 seconds before you drive
off.

Assuming you have been sensible enough to buy a car with one, of
course. ;-)

Chris

Indeed. I also press the button which sets the fan at maximum, the
air on "demist" and the heat at max at the same time.
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