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Old March 7th 10, 10:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
petetop
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Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament live ( with an
inline fuse between relay and live connection ) with no other wires
connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high pitched whistle
coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same. I then
connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It still whistles.
Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something wrong?
Regards

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Old March 7th 10, 12:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Andy Cap
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop" wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament live ( with an
inline fuse between relay and live connection ) with no other wires
connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high pitched whistle
coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same. I then
connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It still whistles.
Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something wrong?
Regards



I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any help ?
(I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c
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Old March 7th 10, 12:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
petetop
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"Andy Cap" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop" wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament live ( with an
inline fuse between relay and live connection ) with no other wires
connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high pitched whistle
coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same. I then
connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It still whistles.
Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something wrong?
Regards



I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any help ?
(I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c


Hi
Thanks for that, I have aquired a wiring diagram, same as in that shortcut.
My problem is now when I connect the relay to my battery it constantly
whistles.
Regards
Pete

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Old March 7th 10, 01:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Andy Cap
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:51:34 -0000, "petetop" wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop" wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament live ( with an
inline fuse between relay and live connection ) with no other wires
connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high pitched whistle
coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same. I then
connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It still whistles.
Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something wrong?
Regards



I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any help ?
(I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c


Hi
Thanks for that, I have aquired a wiring diagram, same as in that shortcut.
My problem is now when I connect the relay to my battery it constantly
whistles.
Regards
Pete


Is that not the sounder, which indicates the trailer indicators are working OK ?

I would be inclined to make those two connections and see if the sounder stays
off.
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Old March 7th 10, 01:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
petetop
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"Andy Cap" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:51:34 -0000, "petetop" wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop"
wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament live ( with an
inline fuse between relay and live connection ) with no other wires
connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high pitched
whistle
coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same. I then
connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It still whistles.
Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something wrong?
Regards


I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any help ?
(I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c


Hi
Thanks for that, I have aquired a wiring diagram, same as in that
shortcut.
My problem is now when I connect the relay to my battery it constantly
whistles.
Regards
Pete


Is that not the sounder, which indicates the trailer indicators are
working OK ?

I would be inclined to make those two connections and see if the sounder
stays
off.

I have just wired up the left and right indicators to the relay, still
constant whistling when the 12v is connected. I ignored the whistling and
tried the indicators, the tester showed power was going to them through the
relay but still got a constant whistling.
Regards

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Old March 7th 10, 02:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Steve Robinson
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petetop wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
news 2010 12:51:34 -0000, "petetop" wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop"

wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament
live ( with an inline fuse between relay and live
connection ) with no other wires connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high
pitched whistle coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same.
I then connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It
still whistles. Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something
wrong?
Regards


I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any
help ? (I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c

Hi
Thanks for that, I have aquired a wiring diagram, same as in
that shortcut. My problem is now when I connect the relay to
my battery it constantly whistles.
Regards
Pete


Is that not the sounder, which indicates the trailer indicators
are working OK ?

I would be inclined to make those two connections and see if the
sounder stays off.

I have just wired up the left and right indicators to the relay,
still constant whistling when the 12v is connected. I ignored the
whistling and tried the indicators, the tester showed power was
going to them through the relay but still got a constant whistling.
Regards


It sounds as though you have the wiring screwed up or the wrong relay

You dont say which car or if its a canbus or muliplexed system it
makes a difference to how you install

You may find a terminal marked tt make sure its not connected to
earth

Check out the towsure website they have a pdf document on installing
these types of relays


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Old March 7th 10, 03:30 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
petetop
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"steve robinson" wrote in message
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petetop wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
news 2010 12:51:34 -0000, "petetop" wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop"

wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament
live ( with an inline fuse between relay and live
connection ) with no other wires connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high
pitched whistle coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the same.
I then connected the rear light wires from the vehicle. It
still whistles. Obviously removing the fuse at each step.
Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I doing something
wrong?
Regards


I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any
help ? (I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c

Hi
Thanks for that, I have aquired a wiring diagram, same as in
that shortcut. My problem is now when I connect the relay to
my battery it constantly whistles.
Regards
Pete

Is that not the sounder, which indicates the trailer indicators
are working OK ?

I would be inclined to make those two connections and see if the
sounder stays off.

I have just wired up the left and right indicators to the relay,
still constant whistling when the 12v is connected. I ignored the
whistling and tried the indicators, the tester showed power was
going to them through the relay but still got a constant whistling.
Regards


It sounds as though you have the wiring screwed up or the wrong relay

You dont say which car or if its a canbus or muliplexed system it
makes a difference to how you install

You may find a terminal marked tt make sure its not connected to
earth

Check out the towsure website they have a pdf document on installing
these types of relays

Its a bit hard to screw the wiring up when you have only live and earth
connected straight to battery. No I haven't got the "TT" connected to
anything.
The vehicle is a vectra c.
I have connected yellow to left indicator and green to right indicator.
Even without these connected it still whistles.
The relay is a 7 way bypass relay model no. TEB7AS
Regards

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Old March 7th 10, 04:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Steve Robinson
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Default Bypass relay

petetop wrote:


"steve robinson" wrote in message
...
petetop wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
news Mar
2010 12:51:34 -0000, "petetop" wrote:


"Andy Cap" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:47:58 -0000, "petetop"
wrote:

Hi
I have wired a 7 way bypass relay to earth and permament
live ( with an inline fuse between relay and live
connection ) with no other wires connected yet.
As soon as I put in the inline fuse I get a constant high
pitched whistle coming from the relay box.
If I connect the towbar plug socket wires it does the

same. I then connected the rear light wires from the
vehicle. It still whistles. Obviously removing the fuse
at each step. Does this mean the relay is faulty or am I
doing something wrong?
Regards


I know nothing about them, but is this explanation of any
help ? (I noticed no one picked up your ealier query)

http://tinyurl.com/y9mgx7c

Hi
Thanks for that, I have aquired a wiring diagram, same as in
that shortcut. My problem is now when I connect the relay to
my battery it constantly whistles.
Regards
Pete

Is that not the sounder, which indicates the trailer indicators
are working OK ?

I would be inclined to make those two connections and see if the
sounder stays off.

I have just wired up the left and right indicators to the relay,
still constant whistling when the 12v is connected. I ignored
the whistling and tried the indicators, the tester showed power
was going to them through the relay but still got a constant
whistling. Regards


It sounds as though you have the wiring screwed up or the wrong
relay

You dont say which car or if its a canbus or muliplexed system it
makes a difference to how you install

You may find a terminal marked tt make sure its not connected to
earth

Check out the towsure website they have a pdf document on
installing these types of relays

Its a bit hard to screw the wiring up when you have only live and
earth connected straight to battery.


Not really its amazing how many people do screw up the connections

Go back to basics and start again , recheck that you have connected
the permament feed and ground correctly its one of the biggest
mistakes made



No I haven't got the "TT"


The vehicle is a vectra c. I have
connected yellow to left indicator and green to right indicator.
Even without these connected it still whistles. The relay is a 7
way bypass relay model no. TEB7AS Regards


The TEB7AS is for CAN BUS or multiplexed systems , according to
towing electrics website , its quite possible the noise is a fault
warning because not picking up the other feeds including braking and
tail lights .

CAN BUS systems are not just power supplies they are controlled by
ECUs around the car sending out signals constantly , even when the
lights are off , similar to a computer network .

I am not sure if the vectra c is fully can bus or just part can bus



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Old March 7th 10, 04:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
rp[_2_]
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:30:37 -0000, petetop wrote:

Its a bit hard to screw the wiring up when you have only live and earth
connected straight to battery. No I haven't got the "TT" connected to
anything.
The vehicle is a vectra c.
I have connected yellow to left indicator and green to right indicator.
Even without these connected it still whistles.
The relay is a 7 way bypass relay model no. TEB7AS
Regards


Sounds like you have a faulty relay since
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ttdi/page2.jpg says it
should only sound if you have a load connected to the flasher circuits.

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Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk


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Old March 7th 10, 04:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
petetop
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"rp" wrote in message
news:atcfzvasbuvgflfgrzfygqhx.kyxkdx0.pminews@ouse .infohitsystems.ltd.uk...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:30:37 -0000, petetop wrote:

Its a bit hard to screw the wiring up when you have only live and earth
connected straight to battery. No I haven't got the "TT" connected to
anything.
The vehicle is a vectra c.
I have connected yellow to left indicator and green to right indicator.
Even without these connected it still whistles.
The relay is a 7 way bypass relay model no. TEB7AS
Regards


Sounds like you have a faulty relay since
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ttdi/page2.jpg says it
should only sound if you have a load connected to the flasher circuits.

--
Regards - Rodney Pont
The from address exists but is mostly dumped,
please send any emails to the address below
e-mail ngpsm4 (at) infohitsystems (dot) ltd (dot) uk


Hi
Thats the same wiring diagram I have, thats why I asked if its possibly a
faulty relay.
Regards
Pete

 




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