Hi

I need advice re non functional drivers window regulator on a Ford Focus
Zetec 51 plate.

The window glass is fully up and does not move at all when the switch is
pressed

I measured the regulator voltage +/- 10 volts under load.

All the instructions for replacing the regulator say lower the glass
half way down to remove the glass.

I would if I could!

Is there a recommended way to sabotage the regulator to lower the glass?

Are the non Ford windows regulators any good?

They are much cheaper than Ford prices £68 from the
www.windowregulatorman.co.uk comapred to £220 + from Ford (according to
a thread from July last year).

Richard

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:59:47 -0000, RichardB
wrote:

Hi

I need advice re non functional drivers window regulator on a Ford Focus
Zetec 51 plate.

The window glass is fully up and does not move at all when the switch is
pressed

I measured the regulator voltage +/- 10 volts under load.


If it's really 10v then somethings stuck.

All the instructions for replacing the regulator say lower the glass
half way down to remove the glass.

I would if I could!

Is there a recommended way to sabotage the regulator to lower the glass?


Angle grinder:-)

Are the non Ford windows regulators any good?

They are much cheaper than Ford prices £68 from the
www.windowregulatorman.co.uk comapred to £220 + from Ford (according to
a thread from July last year).

Richard

"RichardB" wrote in message
o.uk...
Hi

I need advice re non functional drivers window regulator on a Ford Focus
Zetec 51 plate.

The window glass is fully up and does not move at all when the switch is
pressed

I measured the regulator voltage +/- 10 volts under load.

All the instructions for replacing the regulator say lower the glass half
way down to remove the glass.

I would if I could!

Is there a recommended way to sabotage the regulator to lower the glass?

Are the non Ford windows regulators any good?

They are much cheaper than Ford prices £68 from the
www.windowregulatorman.co.uk comapred to £220 + from Ford (according to a
thread from July last year).

Richard



try just giving it a direct electrical feed straight to the motor, otherwise
unbolt the motor assembly/slidey bit and it will all drop rather rapidly

On 6 Feb, 16:59, RichardB wrote:
Hi

I need advice re non functional drivers window regulator on a Ford Focus
Zetec 51 plate.

The window glass is fully up and does not move at all when the switch is
pressed

I measured the regulator voltage +/- 10 volts under load.

All the instructions for replacing the regulator say lower the glass
half way down to remove the glass.

I would if I could!

Is there a recommended way to sabotage the regulator to lower the glass?

Are the non Ford windows regulators any good?

They are much cheaper than Ford prices 68 from thewww.windowregulatorman.co.ukcomapred to 220 + from Ford (according to
a thread from July last year).

Richard

replaced mine last year ( 52 Focus , same door ) The part was £100 I
think, from Ford dealer but I had to replace the door seal thing as
well. The lifter mechanism can be detached from the glass by pushing
out the hollow plastic tube in the middle that goes through a whole in
the glass. It's not easy and there was no particularly elegant way of
doing it that I could see! If it's not moving when you put 12v on it
then you might as well just cut the wire or do what ever.. I think
they are pretty much disposable.

On 6 Feb, 22:09, mr p wrote:
On 6 Feb, 16:59, RichardB wrote:



Hi

I need advice re non functional drivers windowregulatoron a FordFocus
Zetec 51 plate.

The window glass is fully up and does not move at all when the switch is
pressed

I measured theregulatorvoltage +/- 10 volts under load.

All the instructions for replacing theregulatorsay lower the glass
half way down to remove the glass.

I would if I could!

Is there a recommended way to sabotage theregulatorto lower the glass?

Are the non Ford windows regulators any good?

They are much cheaper than Ford prices 68 from thewww.windowregulatorman.co.ukcomapredto 220 + from Ford (according to
a thread from July last year).

Richard

replaced mine last year ( 52Focus, same door ) The part was £100 I
think, *from Ford dealer but I had to replace the door seal thing as
well. The lifter mechanism can be detached from the glass by pushing
out the hollow plastic tube in the middle that goes through a whole in
the glass. It's not easy and there was no particularly elegant way of
doing it that I could see! If it's not moving when you put 12v on it
then you might as well just cut the wire or do what ever.. I think
they are pretty much disposable.

oops! I just check my previous post, it was a rear window which
failed on Mine ! Must think before I post ;-)

"mr p" wrote in message
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On 6 Feb, 22:09, mr p wrote:
On 6 Feb, 16:59, RichardB wrote:



Hi

I need advice re non functional drivers windowregulatoron a FordFocus
Zetec 51 plate.

The window glass is fully up and does not move at all when the switch is
pressed

I measured theregulatorvoltage +/- 10 volts under load.

All the instructions for replacing theregulatorsay lower the glass
half way down to remove the glass.

I would if I could!

Is there a recommended way to sabotage theregulatorto lower the glass?

Are the non Ford windows regulators any good?

They are much cheaper than Ford prices 68 from
thewww.windowregulatorman.co.ukcomapredto 220 + from Ford (according to
a thread from July last year).

Richard

replaced mine last year ( 52Focus, same door ) The part was £100 I
think, from Ford dealer but I had to replace the door seal thing as
well. The lifter mechanism can be detached from the glass by pushing
out the hollow plastic tube in the middle that goes through a whole in
the glass. It's not easy and there was no particularly elegant way of
doing it that I could see! If it's not moving when you put 12v on it
then you might as well just cut the wire or do what ever.. I think
they are pretty much disposable.

oops! I just check my previous post, it was a rear window which
failed on Mine ! Must think before I post ;-)

Do you imply that the motor is drawing current and causing the volts to
drop? If this is the case have you tried firmly pulling down on the glass as
you operate the switch? Put a hand each side of the window and pull down
whilst getting someone to operate the switch. Some cars will isolate the
motor if stalled for a few seconds - so be quick.

snip

Do you imply that the motor is drawing current and causing the volts to
drop? If this is the case have you tried firmly pulling down on the glass as
you operate the switch? Put a hand each side of the window and pull down
whilst getting someone to operate the switch. Some cars will isolate the
motor if stalled for a few seconds - so be quick.



Many thanks for all the advice - apart from angle grinder :-o

I have tried bypassing the car wiring & connecting the regulators motor
momentarily straight to the battery.

Regulator motor could be heard to "thunk" but no window movement!

I will try pulling down on the window as suggested by John.

The local Ford main dealer has quoted £269.73 for a new regulator!

A local motor factor wants £108 inc VAT, I prefer OEM but not at that price!

Richard

"RichardB" wrote in message
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snip

Do you imply that the motor is drawing current and causing the volts to
drop? If this is the case have you tried firmly pulling down on the glass
as you operate the switch? Put a hand each side of the window and pull
down whilst getting someone to operate the switch. Some cars will isolate
the motor if stalled for a few seconds - so be quick.

Many thanks for all the advice - apart from angle grinder :-o

I have tried bypassing the car wiring & connecting the regulators motor
momentarily straight to the battery.

Regulator motor could be heard to "thunk" but no window movement!

I will try pulling down on the window as suggested by John.

The local Ford main dealer has quoted £269.73 for a new regulator!

A local motor factor wants £108 inc VAT, I prefer OEM but not at that
price!

Richard

Time to remove the trim and investigate. Fortunately it seems the motor is
still working (Thunk). Could it be something rusted and seized? Could a
cable have crossed on the winding mechanism

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:40:04 -0000, John wrote:


"RichardB" wrote in message
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snip

Do you imply that the motor is drawing current and causing the volts to
drop? If this is the case have you tried firmly pulling down on the
glass
as you operate the switch? Put a hand each side of the window and pull
down whilst getting someone to operate the switch. Some cars will
isolate
the motor if stalled for a few seconds - so be quick.

Many thanks for all the advice - apart from angle grinder :-o

I have tried bypassing the car wiring & connecting the regulators motor
momentarily straight to the battery.

Regulator motor could be heard to "thunk" but no window movement!

I will try pulling down on the window as suggested by John.

The local Ford main dealer has quoted £269.73 for a new regulator!

A local motor factor wants £108 inc VAT, I prefer OEM but not at that
price!

Richard

Time to remove the trim and investigate. Fortunately it seems the motor
is
still working (Thunk). Could it be something rusted and seized?

Yup,

Could a
cable have crossed on the winding mechanism



In general once they do that you'll need a new one.

--
Duncan Wood

On 8 Feb, 22:04, RichardB wrote:
snip



Do you imply that the motor is drawing current and causing the volts to
drop? If this is the case have you tried firmly pulling down on the glass as
you operate the switch? Put a hand each side of the window and pull down
whilst getting someone to operate the switch. Some cars will isolate the
motor if stalled for a few seconds - so be quick.

Many thanks for all the advice - apart from angle grinder :-o

I have tried bypassing the car wiring & connecting the regulators motor
momentarily straight to the battery.

Regulator motor could be heard to "thunk" but no window movement!

I will try pulling down on the window as suggested by John.

The local Ford main dealer has quoted £269.73 for a new regulator!

A local motor factor wants £108 inc VAT, I prefer OEM but not at that price!

Richard

I had a few used ones come up on the web, ' find-a-part' what ever it
was, but seem to remember they were not cheap any way. Block of wood
in door and trip to scrappy if it happens to me again.