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Old April 27th 09, 07:39 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Just bought a Peugeot 306 TD. After barely a week I had to replace all
the glow plugs through slow starting/non-starting. Is there a way the
dealer could have disguised this for a few days? He is at fault with
three electrical issues, so now I am wondering whether I can chase him
for the plugs as well?

Unhappy Motoring

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Old April 27th 09, 10:06 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Conor gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Just bought a Peugeot 306 TD. After barely a week I had to replace all
the glow plugs through slow starting/non-starting. Is there a way the
dealer could have disguised this for a few days? He is at fault with
three electrical issues, so now I am wondering whether I can chase him
for the plugs as well?


Its a 306. It's hardly a current model so there's a fair bit of caveat
emptor involved. Dealer is only liable for what he lied about and what
makes it dangerous.


Indeed. Even the newest 306 is 7-8yo now. Glowplugs are a service item.
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Old April 27th 09, 10:08 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Adrian gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Its a 306. It's hardly a current model so there's a fair bit of caveat
emptor involved. Dealer is only liable for what he lied about and what
makes it dangerous.


Indeed. Even the newest 306 is 7-8yo now. Glowplugs are a service item.


Thinking about it, if the glows are even needed this time of year, it's
probably the older 1.9 XUD instead of an HDi - so at least a decade old.
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Old April 27th 09, 10:36 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Julian[_2_]
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Just bought a Peugeot 306 TD. After barely a week I had to replace all
the glow plugs through slow starting/non-starting. Is there a way the
dealer could have disguised this for a few days? He is at fault with
three electrical issues, so now I am wondering whether I can chase him
for the plugs as well?


Is it the XUD9(T) engine? It's not unheard of for the plug timer to head
south and for the plugs to run all the time - they won't last long in this
situation.

Notwithstanding the above the plugs never last more than a few years (at
best) in these cars because of the post engine start glow function that
these engines have (the older XUD's didn't). If you have something about you
then it is an easy task to disable this feature by adjusting the microswitch
on the pump throttle arm. Doing this will treble glow plug life - a swine to
change on the intercooled engines!

Julian.


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Old April 27th 09, 10:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Indeed. Even the newest 306 is 7-8yo now. Glowplugs are a service item.


Was it agreed the vehicle was serviced prior to purchase then, by any
chance?
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Old April 27th 09, 10:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Andy Cap gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Indeed. Even the newest 306 is 7-8yo now. Glowplugs are a service item.


Was it agreed the vehicle was serviced prior to purchase then, by any
chance?


By "service item", I don't mean that they're part of the regular service
schedule - they're not - but that they're a consumable that needs
replacing every now and then - like tyres or brake pads/discs.
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Old April 27th 09, 11:02 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Just bought a Peugeot 306 TD. After barely a week I had to replace all
the glow plugs through slow starting/non-starting. Is there a way the
dealer could have disguised this for a few days? He is at fault with
three electrical issues, so now I am wondering whether I can chase him
for the plugs as well?


I'm just a normal punter and have never run a business or worked selling but
can't understand why so many these days seems to think a seller has all the
responsibilty. When buying something second hand its up to you to satisfy
yourself its up to the job. If you don't have the skills to make the
judgement then take someone with you who does know. If I buy something from
ebay or a second hand car, its up to me to make sure its ok and if it isn't
then its my fault, no one else. Its not retail and you can't take it back
and get a refund like you can at M&S.

Mark


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Old April 27th 09, 11:10 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
Andy Cap
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I'm just a normal punter and have never run a business or worked selling but
can't understand why so many these days seems to think a seller has all the
responsibilty. When buying something second hand its up to you to satisfy
yourself its up to the job. If you don't have the skills to make the
judgement then take someone with you who does know. If I buy something from
ebay or a second hand car, its up to me to make sure its ok and if it isn't
then its my fault, no one else. Its not retail and you can't take it back
and get a refund like you can at M&S.

Mark


Sure that's true if you buy privately, but for example I just bought a
car in January and it came with the promise it had been serviced, which
it has, and a 1 month full warranty and 2 further months on a 50:50 basis.

He had the rear screen heater repaired and the thermostat changed for me
for free in the 1st month and in the second month we went halves on a
rear shock absorber - during which time he lent me a car. It is now out
of warranty and all down to me.

I was well impressed with the guy/dealership and would definitely
recommend him to others. Winners all round I believe and exactly as it
should work.
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Old April 27th 09, 11:14 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.maintenance
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Andy Cap gurgled happily, sounding much like they
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and in the second month we went halves on a rear shock absorber


Sorry, he replaced ONE damper only?

VERY, very, very bad practice indeed.
 




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