On Fri, 09 May 2008 15:20:33 +0100, Graham wrote:


"Tim.." wrote in message
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Well if you take a couple of 6" long screwdrivers with you it's
easy. http://www.dervman.com/hotair_files/image021.jpg
But if it needs a new air filter after 10000m then there's
something else wrong.

Might be a typo and be 98000 miles :-) Otherwise, if it's 8 years
old, a new filter will do it more good than harm anyway

Mike P

Not a typo. 9800 (Nine Thousand, eight hundred miles). And as you
correctly said, it will not do any harm. Lovely Black Ka with aircon.
Not my cuppa, but great for the muver.

Regards
Graham

change the oil every year regardless of mileage.

And she exercises the a/c once a month and has had it re-gassed at least
once has she?

And your point is?

FYI, she uses it for demisting and in even the slightest hint of warmth.
If
you are banging on about using it to stop seals failing etc, then I can
assure you its icy baby and as good as new. Why did you even bring this
up.
Way OT.

Out of interest why does car aircon get less cold without use. My home
aircon has never had any problems and not used for most of the year.

Your home aircon has the pump & motor sealed inside the gas system, no
driveshaft seals.

Is it
just an urban myth because some cars suffer or is it all cars. Certain
does
not apply to the Ka in question.

Graham

Graham wrote:

Is the filter accessible. I'll use the trolley jack and axle
stands to get to the drain plug.

Not very no, and it ****es all down your arm and drips off the driveshaft
when you get it off.

That was helpful !! Now can you tell me anything useful, like how
difficult is the oil filter to grab. No didn't think so!

Graham

You asked if the filter was accessible. Tim.. said "not very", and added the
useful information about the oil running down your arm and dripping on to
the driveshaft. (BTW, it seems to do this on lots of Fords.)

In what way was that not helpful?

Chris

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Graham wrote:


"Tim.." wrote in message
...


Well if you take a couple of 6" long screwdrivers with you it's
easy. http://www.dervman.com/hotair_files/image021.jpg
But if it needs a new air filter after 10000m then there's
something else wrong.

Might be a typo and be 98000 miles :-) Otherwise, if it's 8 years
old, a new filter will do it more good than harm anyway

Mike P

Not a typo. 9800 (Nine Thousand, eight hundred miles). And as you
correctly said, it will not do any harm. Lovely Black Ka with aircon.
Not my cuppa, but great for the muver.

Regards
Graham

change the oil every year regardless of mileage.

And she exercises the a/c once a month and has had it re-gassed at least
once has she?

And your point is?

FYI, she uses it for demisting and in even the slightest hint of warmth.
If you are banging on about using it to stop seals failing etc, then I can
assure you its icy baby and as good as new. Why did you even bring this
up. Way OT.

Out of interest why does car aircon get less cold without use. My home
aircon has never had any problems and not used for most of the year. Is it
just an urban myth because some cars suffer or is it all cars. Certain
does not apply to the Ka in question.

Graham

You really are an obnoxious ****!

You've asked for help, been given some good general advice about your Mum's
car by some of the most experienced guys here, and you've responded so
rudely that you are unlikely to get much help in the future.

Well done!

Chris

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Graham wrote:


Out of interest why does car aircon get less cold without use. My home
aircon has never had any problems and not used for most of the year.
Is it just an urban myth because some cars suffer or is it all cars.
Certain does not apply to the Ka in question.

Graham

Car air con especially modern stuff only has a tiny amount of gas in the
first place, so any loss means that the pressure switches detect it and
prevent the compressor working. Home air con on the other hand has more gas
and less pressure switches.

Depending on the type home air con may not have any flexibles, which means
far less losses, compared to car stuff which must have flexis and is subject
to more vibration, heat, oil, fumes etc..

I have just finished regassing one of my home units (split type with
flexis), which lost enough gas over the winter to fail to cool, even though
the compressor still runs. While using the same unit, if it loses gas the
first sign is ice forming and leaks of water appearing on the floor (so it
is actually running colder than it should at the evaporator), keep using it
and the next stage is less and less cooling. The balance line between too
little, enough and too much is quite narrow, which is why it is a good idea
to use the right gear to check and refill air con, these halfords aerosols
seem a bit iffy to me.

Mrcheerful

Graham wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
.. .
Its been done about three time since new, so not to your yearly
requirements, however, I am tempted to do it again this summer as
has been 2 years and 2500 miles since last change and looking light
brown rather than its usual clear honey colour. Any words of wisdom
about doing that? Is the filter accessible. I'll use the trolley
jack and axle stands to get to the drain plug.

Regards
Graham

axle stands or ramps will be fine, if you can (I can't remember as I
do very few KA) undo the filter from under the bonnet rather than
from underneath and you will get less messy. Use a six point
spanner or socket as people often round the sump plug off, any car
shop will sell you a new plug.

Thanks for that. Much appreciated. Glad its possible to reach the oil
filter from above. Fairly easy on my old Sierra as plenty of space,
but from what I've seen modern cars seem to put plastic covers over
the top part of engine (no doubt to discourage home maintenance).
I'll still use stands unless there is some good reason not to, as I
prefer them to ramps.
Regards
Graham

I am fairly certain you can get that filter from the right of the engine bay
with a long arm, I usually use filter pliers, but there is a fair bit of
room around it, not like the honda CRV I did the other day, it had the wrong
(too large) filter and there was only a tiny bit of room around it. Worst
way get underneath with a towel and goggles. Well worth removing, greasing
and reinstalling the plugs while you are there, or at the very least get
some oil around them to soak in for next time.

Use the correct ford oil on the KA

"Graham" wrote in message
news:gK2dnTEvdNKp-L7VnZ2dnUVZ8vGdnZ2d@metronet...
I've been given the task of changing the air filter on my Mum's Ka (1300cc
Kent type engine). As she lives 100 miles away, I am curious if its a
quick job to change and would appreciate a heads up from those that know.
Hopefully its like my Sierra which just has four posi bolts and spring
clips, but hey, the Ka is a modern car and I am not confident it will be
that simple.

Yes, it's easy.

"Graham" wrote in message
...

"Tim.." wrote in message
...


Well if you take a couple of 6" long screwdrivers with you it's
easy. http://www.dervman.com/hotair_files/image021.jpg
But if it needs a new air filter after 10000m then there's
something else wrong.

Might be a typo and be 98000 miles :-) Otherwise, if it's 8 years
old, a new filter will do it more good than harm anyway

Mike P

Not a typo. 9800 (Nine Thousand, eight hundred miles). And as you
correctly said, it will not do any harm. Lovely Black Ka with aircon.
Not my cuppa, but great for the muver.

Regards
Graham

change the oil every year regardless of mileage.

And she exercises the a/c once a month and has had it re-gassed at least
once has she?

And your point is?

FYI, she uses it for demisting and in even the slightest hint of warmth.
If
you are banging on about using it to stop seals failing etc, then I can
assure you its icy baby and as good as new. Why did you even bring this
up.
Way OT.

Out of interest why does car aircon get less cold without use. My home
aircon has never had any problems and not used for most of the year. Is it
just an urban myth because some cars suffer or is it all cars. Certain
does
not apply to the Ka in question.

Touchy isn't he!

Tim..

In article ,
says...
I reckon Rob fitted a chav air filter to a turbo car, didn't read the
instructions properly, put it too close to the MAF and ended up with a big
bill :-)

"rob" is a tiscali **** who decries that any part not personally blessed
by the living deity founder of the marque will instantly kill it dead.

And to him a factory fresh dealer serviced 1.3 KA is a far more
reliable, and more performance oriented car than a nice fresh
supercharged Zetec conversion built by a professional racing/tuning team
and warrented by the company. It can't be as good as the 1.3 because the
mechanically assisted corpse of henry blesses every washer and gasket at
the ford headquarters.
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"Elder" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
I reckon Rob fitted a chav air filter to a turbo car, didn't read the
instructions properly, put it too close to the MAF and ended up with a big
bill :-)

"rob" is a tiscali **** who decries that any part not personally blessed
by the living deity founder of the marque will instantly kill it dead.

And to him a factory fresh dealer serviced 1.3 KA is a far more
reliable, and more performance oriented car than a nice fresh
supercharged Zetec conversion built by a professional racing/tuning team
and warrented by the company. It can't be as good as the 1.3 because the
mechanically assisted corpse of henry blesses every washer and gasket at
the ford headquarters.


I'd take the standard car any day of the week. Its been tested beyond what
our imagination could conceive and been driven with those components for
hundreds of thousands of miles long before it was even put on the market. I
just want a reliable car that is equally comfortable on the motorway and
sitting in a traffic jam and the last thing I want is a booming exhaust pipe
or extra complications of go-faster add-on's. That's my opinion and nothing
wrong with all that turbo, party seven tin exhaust stuff if you are under
25. Just not my cuppa. Oh, and when people are looking at you roaring down
the road, its not because that admire your super car, its because they think
you are a ****. Excusable if under 25, but beyond that the eyes start to
roll and people start to mutter "grow up" under their breath.

Graham

Graham wrote:
"Tim.." wrote in message
...

Thanks Mike. Glad its still a simple one. I hear so many horror
stories of modern cars needing half the front suspension removed :-)
to replace a headlight bulb or something.

Regards
Graham
wait till you need to change a headlamp bulb on the KA, one side can
just be done, the other is take the wheel off and go in under the arch !
Its been done about three time since new, so not to your yearly
requirements, however, I am tempted to do it again this summer as has
been 2 years and 2500 miles since last change and looking light brown
rather than its usual clear honey colour. Any words of wisdom about doing
that? Is the filter accessible. I'll use the trolley jack and axle stands
to get to the drain plug.
Not very no, and it ****es all down your arm and drips off the driveshaft
when you get it off.

That was helpful !! Now can you tell me anything useful, like how difficult
is the oil filter to grab. No didn't think so!


"Is the filter accessible?"
"Not very, no"

Simple, put the car on ramps or jack it up, unscrew the sump plug and
let the oil drain into something - a bucket, perhaps - unscrew the oil
filter (at this point oil will drain down your arm and all over the
driveshaft, but telling you this isn't useful), replace filter, replace
sump plug, replace oil.

We can't tell you how difficult the filter is to grab, everyone tends to
have their own way of reaching the filter. Some go in from above, others
from below, some use 4 post ramps, others on their back lying in the
road. For all we know some may be 7'2" tall with oil filter wrenches
instead of hands.

Oh, and your attitude ****ing stinks.


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Range Rover 4.6 HSE
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