I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a few
weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of steady
away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer and
the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the sensor
£85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater coil light
again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then the
engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances allow,
just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when I
spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced if
fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a fuel flow
fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

John

On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:30:33 +0100, JohnR wrote:

I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

John


Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

Thanks Duncan, I was definitely changing the filter anyway. i'll get the ECU
checked now too....Cheers.
John
"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:30:33 +0100, JohnR wrote:

I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

John


Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

"JohnR" wrote in message
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I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of steady
away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer and
the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the sensor
£85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater coil light
again came on again and car in limp mode.

This illustrates why you shouldn't trust error codes - they do NOT always
show
the real problem or the cause. I would be asking him for the £85+VAT if he
give an
incorrect diagnosis. Not much good if he can only read fault codes without
knowing how to make a proper diagnosis.

Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.

So did you Google it, or join any of the Honda forums to find out more?
Mr RAC should be able to tell you what it means otherwise he isn't much use!

The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.

That is because your MAF sensor has gone - you need to look at it closely.

I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.

No need for a major service, it will be cheaper to get a Honda dealer to fix
it
rather than keep listening to "oh let's try this" from your mate. His
apparent
lack of knowledge will cost you a fortune. he doesn't really know what's
wrong
with it, he is guessing. Terrible when he doesn't know what codes can point
to!

The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when I
spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced if
fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a fuel
flow fault, was my recent thought.

Only if the filter is blocked - in which case Mr RAC would get a few
different error codes
pointing to that. The filters don't need to be changed that often, you
would notice poor
performance over time until it packed in. The error code will not say
"change the filter",
it might show a few other things such as injector concerns or emission
warnings.

Any help appreciated.

John

"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:30:33 +0100, JohnR wrote:

I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

John


Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

Nothing to do with "earthing", that is usually shouted as a guess.
If the ECU wasn't "earthed" - or connected to the negative supply it
wouldn't work.
If the connection was bad or a high resistance it would show immediately as
the
car wouldn't start or run. It isn't really an issue with a Honda.
The fuel filter change will make no difference. Learn how a diesel turbo
engine works!
Stop the guessing and save money. Split the engine in to sections, look at
what each
one does - then try to work out why an error code would point to one thing,
but be caused
by surrounding parts.

JohnR wrote:
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

P1065 is a generic mass air flow meter OBD code.


--
Pete M - OMF#9
Range Rover V8 Turbo
Range Rover 4.6 HSE
"Professional Petrolhead"

"Pete M" wrote in message
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JohnR wrote:
I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer and
the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the sensor
£85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater coil light
again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a fuel
flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

P1065 is a generic mass air flow meter OBD code.

Only codes in the region of P0000-0999 are generic codes.
Anything above are manufacturer specific codes, along with any beginning
with C or U.

"Rob" wrote in message
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"Duncan Wood" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 14:30:33 +0100, JohnR wrote:

I have an Accord Tourer 2.2 ictdi, had the car for about 7 months now, a
few weeks ago the heater coil display light came on whilst driving under
acceleration, the car went into "limp mode" after a minute or so of
steady away driving it went off.
A friend who is an RAC patrolman plugged into his diagnostic computer
and the fault was a camshaft position sensor fault, we renewed the
sensor £85.00+ vat, cleared the fault code and tried it, the heater
coil light again came on again and car in limp mode.
Diagnosed it again, this time it showed a P1065 fault code, which I
understand is a Honda fault code.
The car starts and runs fine until you accelerate maybe to 3000 rpm then
the engine faulters and if you persist it will go into limp mode.
I am going to put it in for a major sevice pretty soon when finances
allow, just wondered if anyone has any experience of similar.
The fuel filter does not look like it has been changed recently and when
I spoke to the main dealer they said some problems had been experienced
if fuel filters were not changed regularly....Could it possibly be a
fuel flow fault, was my recent thought.
Any help appreciated.

John


Change the fuel filter & check the earthing to the ECU if you don't want
to pay Honda for a fault code read out.

Nothing to do with "earthing", that is usually shouted as a guess.
If the ECU wasn't "earthed" - or connected to the negative supply it
wouldn't work.
If the connection was bad or a high resistance it would show immediately
as the
car wouldn't start or run. It isn't really an issue with a Honda.
The fuel filter change will make no difference. Learn how a diesel turbo
engine works!

A blocked/restricted fuel filter on modern diesels can cause the vehicle to
go into limp home mode.
Particuarly on Delphi and Denso systems that use a flow control valve on the
vacuum side of the high pressure pump. The ECU will realise that it's not
seeing enough pressure for a given valve opening, and enter into limp home
mode to protect the high pressure pump.

Stop the guessing and save money. Split the engine in to sections, look
at what each
one does - then try to work out why an error code would point to one
thing, but be caused
by surrounding parts.

On Tue, 06 May 2008 23:58:28 +0100, Rob wrote:

Mr RAC should be able to tell you what it means otherwise he isn't much
use!

I had an AA man tell me it was the engine management system on my B reg
1.2 Nova that was playing up. It was a basic-as-they-come non-injection
engine with a carb. The only electronic bits on the engine were the
ignition switch and coil.

If he hadn't also said he was retiring in a few weeks because he
'couldn't keep up with all the new technology' I'd have made more of a
fuss.

That one turned out to be a dodgy earth strap, BTW, sometimes a good
connection, sometimes bad. And as I've seen in many of the electronic
gadgets I've worked on (and built from scratch) the errors you get with
intermittent connections are far from logical to diagnose.