A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through the
£1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now costing over
£1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got me wondering just how
much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached a point
where they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car? .. My own
threshold would be somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

Ivan wrote:
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through the
£1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now costing
over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got me wondering
just how much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup
reached a point where they would be seriously thinking about giving up
their car? .. My own threshold would be somewhere around £10.00 a gallon
and that would be it.

I'm currently knocking about in an LPG Vectra Estate as well as the
Range Rovers. Quite funny. Rangie's do around 50-60 miles for £20,
Vectra does 220 for £20. I still use the Rangies when I'm not going
more than around 40 miles.

It's simple, if fuel doesn't come down, I'm just going to have to charge
more for every job I do. Putting the price of fuel up doesn't mean I'll
give up driving, it just means the price of everything I do goes up.

--
Pete M - OMF#9
Range Rover V8 Turbo
Range Rover 4.6 HSE
"Professional Petrolhead"

In article , Ivan says...
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through the
£1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now costing over
£1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got me wondering just how
much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached a point
where they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car? .. My own
threshold would be somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.


Where I live, giving up the car would mean giving up work. I have no
alternative.

--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Pete M wrote:
Ivan wrote:
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through
the £1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now
costing over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got
me wondering just how much it would have to reach before people on
this newsgroup reached a point where they would be seriously
thinking about giving up their car? .. My own threshold would be
somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

I'm currently knocking about in an LPG Vectra Estate as well as the
Range Rovers. Quite funny. Rangie's do around 50-60 miles for £20,
Vectra does 220 for £20. I still use the Rangies when I'm not going
more than around 40 miles.

It's simple, if fuel doesn't come down, I'm just going to have to
charge more for every job I do. Putting the price of fuel up doesn't
mean I'll give up driving, it just means the price of everything I do
goes up.

Well I'm recently retired and me and Mrs are living on slightly under 200
pounds a week, every year the kids' club together and buy us season tickets
for the National Trust, so we very often go off for a day to visit various
places around the country, this can frequently often involve doing well over
200 miles a day in round trips.
A number of guides at some of the National Trust houses which we have
visited over the last couple of months have commented on how much quieter
it's been so far this year, to me it's not difficult to see the reason why
and of course as you say about increasing prices there are limits to what
people can afford to pay, which imv certainly doesn't bode well, I think
that the knock on effect to every business/industry and every individual is
going to be horrendous.

Conor gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Where I live, giving up the car would mean giving up work. I have no
alternative.

I think the Duhg-answer would be "Move house".

"Ivan" wrote in message
...
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through the
£1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now costing over
£1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got me wondering just how
much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached a point
where they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car? .. My own
threshold would be somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

Once it hit £2 a litre I'd struggle to afford private use. £2.70 and it'd be
costing me money to drive around for work.

OTOH although I'm a regular cyclist, I really can't see how my life could
carry on like it does now without a car and affordable fuel. Visiting
relatives would be very costly, going near enough anywhere beyond a couple
of miles is a bit of a gip (which is most places these days - cinema? shops?
any kind of facility in general?), I wouldn't be able to pick and choose
between supermarkets. IME cycling is a lot faster than getting bus, even
over relatively long distances, but that's not saying much. I suspect we'd
all be thorougly miserable.

In article , Adrian says...
Conor gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Where I live, giving up the car would mean giving up work. I have no
alternative.

I think the Duhg-answer would be "Move house".

In most places, it still doesn't alter the fact. There's not many
places with 24/7 PT that serves industrial areas.

I suppose I could get a job leaving home at 3am on Monday morning not
to return until 6-7pm Friday night but then whats the point of having a
home and family if you don't get to see them or enjoy the fruits of
your labour?

--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Ivan wrote:
Pete M wrote:
Ivan wrote:
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through
the £1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now
costing over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got
me wondering just how much it would have to reach before people on
this newsgroup reached a point where they would be seriously
thinking about giving up their car? .. My own threshold would be
somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

I'm currently knocking about in an LPG Vectra Estate as well as the
Range Rovers. Quite funny. Rangie's do around 50-60 miles for £20,
Vectra does 220 for £20. I still use the Rangies when I'm not going
more than around 40 miles.

It's simple, if fuel doesn't come down, I'm just going to have to
charge more for every job I do. Putting the price of fuel up doesn't
mean I'll give up driving, it just means the price of everything I do
goes up.

Well I'm recently retired and me and Mrs are living on slightly under
200 pounds a week, every year the kids' club together and buy us season
tickets for the National Trust, so we very often go off for a day to
visit various places around the country, this can frequently often
involve doing well over 200 miles a day in round trips.
A number of guides at some of the National Trust houses which we have
visited over the last couple of months have commented on how much
quieter it's been so far this year, to me it's not difficult to see the
reason why and of course as you say about increasing prices there are
limits to what people can afford to pay, which imv certainly doesn't
bode well, I think that the knock on effect to every business/industry
and every individual is going to be horrendous.


Unfortunately the kicking that the government received last week still
doesn't seem to have sunk into their thick heads. They're still
considering "reviewing" the 2p fuel hike they've got planned for
Septemberish.

Unfortunately, they seem to think that the 10p tax band makes more
difference than ripping the motorist off for £30-50 a month more in tax.

The country is rapidly heading to the dogs and its this bunch of inept
thieves that have caused the situation we're all in, mainly through
insane taxation on anything they can get away with.

Sooner they're out of power, the better. They've been lying to us since
they were voted in and people *still* voted for them again. Hopefully
now everyone's being hit in the wallet on a daily basis they might think
twice before voting Labour next time.


--
Pete M - OMF#9
Range Rover V8 Turbo
Range Rover 4.6 HSE
"Professional Petrolhead"

Doki wrote:
"Ivan" wrote in message
...
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through
the £1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now
costing over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got
me wondering just how much it would have to reach before people on
this newsgroup reached a point where they would be seriously
thinking about giving up their car? .. My own threshold would be
somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

Once it hit £2 a litre I'd struggle to afford private use. £2.70 and
it'd be costing me money to drive around for work.

OTOH although I'm a regular cyclist, I really can't see how my life
could carry on like it does now without a car and affordable fuel.
Visiting relatives would be very costly, going near enough anywhere
beyond a couple of miles is a bit of a gip (which is most places
these days - cinema? shops? any kind of facility in general?), I
wouldn't be able to pick and choose between supermarkets. IME cycling
is a lot faster than getting bus, even over relatively long
distances, but that's not saying much. I suspect we'd all be
thorougly miserable.

On radio Five live's 'wake up to money' last week they were predicting
that it could be up to £1.50 a litre come summer, that's around £6.75 a
gallon, it doesn't bear thinking about.

Ivan wrote:
Doki wrote:
"Ivan" wrote in message
...
A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through
the £1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now
costing over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got
me wondering just how much it would have to reach before people on
this newsgroup reached a point where they would be seriously
thinking about giving up their car? .. My own threshold would be
somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

Once it hit £2 a litre I'd struggle to afford private use. £2.70 and
it'd be costing me money to drive around for work.

OTOH although I'm a regular cyclist, I really can't see how my life
could carry on like it does now without a car and affordable fuel.
Visiting relatives would be very costly, going near enough anywhere
beyond a couple of miles is a bit of a gip (which is most places
these days - cinema? shops? any kind of facility in general?), I
wouldn't be able to pick and choose between supermarkets. IME cycling
is a lot faster than getting bus, even over relatively long
distances, but that's not saying much. I suspect we'd all be
thorougly miserable.

On radio Five live's 'wake up to money' last week they were
predicting that it could be up to £1.50 a litre come summer, that's
around £6.75 a gallon, it doesn't bear thinking about.

When the car was first invented, only the rich could afford one. Same for
holiday travel - only the rich could afford to take foreign holidays and I
know that my parents had to make do with a few days in Blackpool and that
was it.

Then came a time when the average Joe Bloggs in the street got above his
station, and he found that he could afford a car and a foreign holiday. The
rich people did not like this and so decided to put the average working man
back in his place again, and the rich people will only be happy when we are
shining their shoes and back below stairs where we belong.

Tongue-in-cheek after a few beers but I bet there's a grain of truth in
there somewhere )

John