Abo wrote:

cars instead. There will be a cutover point where the pence per mile
paid won't cover the fuel and running costs of the car (which I haven't
calculated yet...)

Replying to my own post... I reckon £2 a litre is when I'd start using a
hire car, unless the EU decided to up the pence/mile payment.

--
Abo

In article ,
says...
this got me wondering just how
much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached a point
where they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car?

I wouldn't give up my car, but I would have to give up working for a
company in an industry I have 10years+ experience of, in a company where
I am pretty appreciated and I enjoy working for, in an office that is
pretty comfortable, and a not bad area, and find a job in walking
distance, in a different trade, starting again, for far lower money, in
less comfortable surroundings, and save the car for emergencies.
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Carl Robson
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In article ,
says...
In article , Adrian says...
Conor gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

I would not be happy, but I would accept it and move on, as I do
whenever circumstances change and I have to change jobs. That is
called a flexable labour market.

The average age of lorry drivers THREE YEARS AGO was 53. What are they
supposed to do?

Semi-retire?

With what?


With the millions you've squirrelled away because you are always telling
us you are highest paid people in the country and how you wouldn't get
out of bed for less than a million an hour plus stop over because there
is a massive driver shortage and you can name your own ransom.
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Carl Robson
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In article ,
says...
Oh you mean the 80's glory days where there was an oversupply of
drivers?

No, last week/month/year when you were bragging about the driver
shortage, where you could shove a trailer up the transport manager's
arse sideways, and still be begged to come back Monday.
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Carl Robson
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In article ,
says...
Its not unusual for there to be differing spellings between web sites
and hard copy material

Well it should be.
Not exactly business like branding/marketing to not copy proof anything
before committing it to publication/hard copy.
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Carl Robson
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"Elder" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...
this got me wondering just how
much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached a
point
where they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car?

I wouldn't give up my car, but I would have to give up working for a
company in an industry I have 10years+ experience of, in a company where
I am pretty appreciated and I enjoy working for, in an office that is
pretty comfortable, and a not bad area, and find a job in walking
distance, in a different trade, starting again, for far lower money, in
less comfortable surroundings, and save the car for emergencies.

There are other means of getting about you know - hit two wheels, powered if
it's a bit far. Obviously it'll have to be a pootly machine rather than
something you'd be proud to be seen on, but who cares? It's just commuting.

clive

Elder wrote:
|| In article ,
|| says...
||| this got me wondering just how
||| much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached
||| a point where they would be seriously thinking about giving up
||| their car?
|||
|| I wouldn't give up my car, but I would have to give up working for a
|| company in an industry I have 10years+ experience of, in a company
|| where I am pretty appreciated and I enjoy working for, in an office
|| that is pretty comfortable, and a not bad area, and find a job in
|| walking distance, in a different trade, starting again, for far
|| lower money, in less comfortable surroundings, and save the car for
|| emergencies.


Driving through Bristol yesterday I saw one garage selling diesel at £1.29.9
pence per litre! the price doesn't appear to be going in a downward spiral
just yet, however if the Western economies take a severe enough hit then
naturally demand will drop and presumably so will the price so will oil
prices, which in turn will make it easier for the said economies to recover,
thereby increasing demand for oil which will in turn force the price up
again, so from now on I see everyday life becoming a lot more interesting, a
bit like like riding a roller-coaster in fact )

Ivan wrote:

A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through the
£1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now costing over
£1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got me wondering just how
much it would have to reach before people on this newsgroup reached a point
where they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car? .. My own
threshold would be somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.

Are you mad? You must be a lottery winner then. Current prices are at
breaking point. £10 per litre would mean £16250 per annum in my case just
for fuel to drive to work. I would need an extra income of £27,083 just to
support this single cost item. Then add Road Tax and insurance plus cost of
maintenance and car renewal.

johannes wrote:
|| Ivan wrote:
|||
||| A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking through
||| the £1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but with it now
||| costing over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a gallon, this got
||| me wondering just how much it would have to reach before people on
||| this newsgroup reached a point where they would be seriously
||| thinking about giving up their car? .. My own threshold would be
||| somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and that would be it.
||
|| Are you mad? You must be a lottery winner then. Current prices are at
|| breaking point. £10 per litre would mean £16250 per annum in my case
|| just for fuel to drive to work. I would need an extra income of
|| £27,083 just to support this single cost item. Then add Road Tax and
|| insurance plus cost of maintenance and car renewal.


I was of course only referring to my own set of personal circumstances,
'fortunately' retired, mortgage paid off along with careful budgeting and
running a diesel, which according to manufacturer's spec can deliver around
63 mpg [presumably with some 'very' careful driving)]
therefore around 70/100 miles of motoring a week for £20.00 wouldn't
represent too much of a hardship to me, although I can well see how
desperate the situation would be for others at that sort of cost, which was
the reason I asked at what sort of threshold would make people on this ng
'seriously' think about giving up their vehicles.
Having said that however, judging by what appears to be the ever increasing
amount of traffic I see on the roads on a daily basis the increased fuel
cost so far doesn't apear to have had very much impact.

Ivan wrote:

johannes wrote:
Ivan wrote:

A few short months ago the prospect of diesel fuel breaking
through the £1.00 a litre barrier appeared to be unlikely, but
with it now costing over £1.20 a liter that's nudging £5.50 a
gallon, this got me wondering just how much it would have to
reach before people on this newsgroup reached a point where
they would be seriously thinking about giving up their car? ..
My own threshold would be somewhere around £10.00 a gallon and
that would be it.

Are you mad? You must be a lottery winner then. Current prices
are at breaking point. £10 per litre would mean £16250 per annum
in my case just for fuel to drive to work. I would need an extra
income of £27,083 just to support this single cost item. Then
add Road Tax and insurance plus cost of maintenance and car
renewal.


I was of course only referring to my own set of personal
circumstances, 'fortunately' retired, mortgage paid off along with
careful budgeting and running a diesel, which according to
manufacturer's spec can deliver around 63 mpg [presumably with some
'very' careful driving)] therefore around 70/100 miles of motoring
a week for £20.00 wouldn't represent too much of a hardship to me,
although I can well see how desperate the situation would be for
others at that sort of cost, which was the reason I asked at what
sort of threshold would make people on this ng 'seriously' think
about giving up their vehicles. Having said that however, judging by
what appears to be the ever increasing amount of traffic I see on the
roads on a daily basis the increased fuel cost so far doesn't apear
to have had very much impact.

Sooner or later the government has got to cap the price otherwise we
will end up in a situation where it will be uneconomic to work