On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:02:01 +0100, Doki wrote:

Conor wrote:
In article b9163a39-4d13-4d59-a314-8f14f5f8c785
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com, says...

I think this is it. As in so many other industries people from
eastern europe are willing to work harder for less money than UK
nationals. In the end this will make the UK more efficent and able
to compete on a global level. It will make life harder for some
people in the short term, but in the long term it will mean that the
uk is a player in the global ecconomy rather that some protectionist
backwater trying and failing to get rich washing each others clothes.

Great, thanks. So 1 million HGV drivers are faced with national
minimum wage or unemployment despite spending over £2500 getting
their licences and with the average age of HGV drivers being 53, no
likelihood of employment ever again just so Joe Public can pay below
the real cost of goods?

********. We have full employment in the UK.

FWIW the average degree must cost in the order of £30k once fees, loans
and loss of earnings for 3 years are considered. Do you see graduates
without jobs moaning about how the industry they trained for should be
protected by the Govt?


Fairly regularly, but normally those who actually work for the government.

Salty wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:28 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Steve.

Why are you changing the headings for each reply? You're making my
newsreaders window a right mess with all these extra 'threads'
appearing.

Oh, and can you snip some of the old messages, please?

I am not changing the headings

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On Wed, 07 May 2008 17:56:47 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:


By the way, have you considered getting somebody vaguely literate to
proof-read your site? It really doesn't act as a very good advert.


Its in the process of being updated so its possibly disjointed , i will
have a look at it later , what have you picked up on

Sorry but the site is ****. Not the business I'm sure, just the site.
It could NOT have been written by anyone who has an ounce of knowledge
of good web design. (I've done a little, I'm not a pro. This is my
site... http://www.thermachek.com/ but business is bad.) If it was,
get your money back.

Problems...

Fixed width, seemingly fixed as wide as my widescreen monitor! *I*
have to scroll sideways to see stuff on my 22" widescreen so what
happens to those who have older 14 or 15" monitors? Or PDA's or net
enabled mobiles.

Garish colours.

No description as to what the site is about on arrival.

No 'layout'; no structure, menu or obvious way of finding 'stuff'.

Does not validate as good code through the validator of the web
standards people. http://validator.w3.org/

I won't go on. Have a look at these links to see what is and isn't
good practice for web design, and WHY. There are reasons that great
looking sites are not GOOD sites for the business. If you haven't the
time then get a minion to do it but do it.

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030825.html

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html

http://www.useit.com/


Oh, and now VERY off topic on the original thread!

On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:16:04 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Salty wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:28 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Steve.

Why are you changing the headings for each reply? You're making my
newsreaders window a right mess with all these extra 'threads'
appearing.

Oh, and can you snip some of the old messages, please?

I am not changing the headings

Well something is:

How much would people on this newsgroup be preparedtopayforagallon of
fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay fora gallon
of fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to payforagallon
of fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay foragallon
of fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for agallon
of fuel?

This makes each reply from you come up as a new thread. Does this not
show on your reader? Oh well, it's not the end of the world. And
thanks for snipping.

On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:51:23 +0100, Salty wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:28 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Steve.

Why are you changing the headings for each reply? You're making my
newsreaders window a right mess with all these extra 'threads'
appearing.

Oh, and can you snip some of the old messages, please?

Hmmm, wrong persona for this group. BAD Michael.

On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:16:04 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Salty wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:28 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Steve.

Why are you changing the headings for each reply? You're making my
newsreaders window a right mess with all these extra 'threads'
appearing.

Oh, and can you snip some of the old messages, please?

I am not changing the headings

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for a
gallon of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for agallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay foragallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to payforagallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared topayforagallon of
fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay fora gallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be preparedtopayforagallon of
fuel?


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Ian D

Mike Barnard wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 17:56:47 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:


By the way, have you considered getting somebody vaguely literate
to proof-read your site? It really doesn't act as a very good
advert.


Its in the process of being updated so its possibly disjointed , i
will have a look at it later , what have you picked up on

Sorry but the site is ****. Not the business I'm sure, just the site.
It could NOT have been written by anyone who has an ounce of knowledge
of good web design. (I've done a little, I'm not a pro. This is my
site... http://www.thermachek.com/ but business is bad.) If it was,
get your money back.

Problems...

Fixed width, seemingly fixed as wide as my widescreen monitor! I
have to scroll sideways to see stuff on my 22" widescreen so what
happens to those who have older 14 or 15" monitors? Or PDA's or net
enabled mobiles.

Garish colours.

No description as to what the site is about on arrival.

No 'layout'; no structure, menu or obvious way of finding 'stuff'.

Does not validate as good code through the validator of the web
standards people. http://validator.w3.org/

I won't go on. Have a look at these links to see what is and isn't
good practice for web design, and WHY. There are reasons that great
looking sites are not GOOD sites for the business. If you haven't the
time then get a minion to do it but do it.

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030825.html

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html

http://www.useit.com/


Oh, and now VERY off topic on the original thread!

I did say its in the process of being changed

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Mike Barnard wrote:

On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:16:04 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Salty wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:28 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Steve.

Why are you changing the headings for each reply? You're making my
newsreaders window a right mess with all these extra 'threads'
appearing.

Oh, and can you snip some of the old messages, please?

I am not changing the headings

Well something is:

How much would people on this newsgroup be preparedtopayforagallon of
fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay fora gallon
of fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to payforagallon
of fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay foragallon
of fuel?

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for agallon
of fuel?

This makes each reply from you come up as a new thread. Does this not
show on your reader? Oh well, it's not the end of the world. And
thanks for snipping.


Yes i can see , it certainly wasnt me though , most of the posts i made
were in response to others

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Ian Dalziel wrote:

On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:16:04 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Salty wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2008 22:08:28 GMT, "steve robinson"
wrote:

Steve.

Why are you changing the headings for each reply? You're making my
newsreaders window a right mess with all these extra 'threads'
appearing.

Oh, and can you snip some of the old messages, please?

I am not changing the headings

How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for a
gallon of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for agallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay foragallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to payforagallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared topayforagallon of
fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay fora gallon
of fuel?
How much would people on this newsgroup be preparedtopayforagallon of
fuel?

As i have already said i have not changed any headers most of my
comments were in response to postings made by adraine or connor

I can E mail you the posted log if you wish

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In article , Clint Sharp says...
In message , Conor
writes
8MPG and an overnight ferry or a 320 mile trip to Dover.

Funny how UK truck drivers vary between hideously underpaid and raking it
in, depending on the point trying to be made...

Depends on your definition of a good wage. Currently I'm on £9.50/hr.
An aside, what happened to the PC support Conor? I thought you only did
the hairy arse bit whilst you were doing your MS exams?

Still do a bit of that. Had a job on Friday afternoon but only an hour.
Nobody has any money at the moment and those who do are hanging onto
it.



--
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams