Reading your posts probably prevented me doing business with these people
(See my post 25 Oct 2005) Thank you all again for that.

Just a suggestion:

But is it possible for all the people here that are having difficulty
getting their cars/refunds from Micronet to get in touch with each other
to exchange experiences/evidence and proceed against Micronet as a body??

JohnJ

As someone who is entangled in the Loach brother's web, I like the idea of
sharing knowledge/information.

I am in the process of starting legal proceedings aainst David Loach and
the LHD Car Company after a truly unbelievable experience. I have sent a
'time of the essence' letter and am awaiting a response... next up I guess
will be a statutory demand notice and so on.
Anyone have any other suggestions as to effective ways of dealing with
these guys?

My partner served a statutory demand on these b@st@rds, giving them 21 days
to give him a full refund. At the end of the 21 days he received a cheque
for a quarter of the amount on the demand. Sorry, that's just not good
enough.

He is now in the process of filing bankruptcy papers with the courts. His
lawyer said it's a no-brainer, there is no question they will go down with
this.

It seems even with knowing that bankruptcy is now being filed against
them, they still won't give him his money back. It's truly beyond belief.

Both brothers disqualified under Company Directors Disqualification
Act 1986
Section 8 - defined as below.

8: Disqualification after investigation of company.

From the following source.

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddi...i?P=0330950703

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ddi...i?P=0591078802

But in reality has it made a difference - they are still trading and still

causing people untold misery.

This will give you there HOME ADDRESS as well.

So you can wait outside or go and talk to his neighbours and tell them all
about what good people live there, or just give him a BIG knock on the door
at 5 in the morning.
Keep going back to put the pressure on him, he has on you by keeping your
money, taking holidays, living it up all on you.

But you will see his car outside or should I say the car he has using our
money.

Well I will it with you all.

With the greatest of respect to those people who have lost out to Micronet.


My suggestion was to go one step further than making posts here. As
immensley useful as they were to me, as far as Micronet are concerned they
seem to amount to little more than 'a little local difficulty'.

If the forum is used to get in touch with each other directly. Then
perhaps real strategies, such as appointing a firm of specialist
solicitors to represent a 'group', can be adopted.

This way, with each action, the 'group solicitor' ia able to bring to the
Courts attention the real magnitude of the problems caused by Micronet
Directors and demonstrate that any single case is not a 'one off', but
part of systmatic and willful unlawful conduct on behalf of Micronet
Directors. Being able to bring to the Courts attention this sort of
evidence collected from the 'group' must surely strengthen any case.

JohnJ

JohnJ wrote:
With the greatest of respect to those people who have lost out to Micronet.


My suggestion was to go one step further than making posts here. As
immensley useful as they were to me, as far as Micronet are concerned they
seem to amount to little more than 'a little local difficulty'.

If the forum is used to get in touch with each other directly. Then
perhaps real strategies, such as appointing a firm of specialist
solicitors to represent a 'group', can be adopted.

This way, with each action, the 'group solicitor' ia able to bring to the
Courts attention the real magnitude of the problems caused by Micronet
Directors and demonstrate that any single case is not a 'one off', but
part of systmatic and willful unlawful conduct on behalf of Micronet
Directors. Being able to bring to the Courts attention this sort of
evidence collected from the 'group' must surely strengthen any case.

JohnJ

"Just a suggestion" but why don't the people that order a car from
Micronet read the Terms and Conditions??!

I found a bargain from Micronet, read the terms and conditions, worked
out if I could afford the possible percentage increase and potential
increase in lead-time and based on that decided not to go ahead. It's
not rocket sceince!

Well anything would be a result in getting our losses back from these
crooks.

I am yet another victim of Micronet Showroom. I lost just short of £18000
to this company.

I just dont understand how the hell they get away with it?

Has anyone heard anything from the OFT and their investigation?

I've just come across this article in looking up on the LHD Car Company as
I am having a major problem with them in the late deilvery of my new car.

"the-original-JR said:

Go to
http://www.oft.gov.uk/default.htm
enter micronet showroom into search
and read the press release.

So they are reasonable guys after all ....."

I understand your comment and yes if it was so!

Can the leopard change his spots? These guys are nothing but
proffesionals, proffesional fraudsters!

6 months ago I purchased a car from a company called LHD Car Company in
Nottingham http://www.lhdcarcompany.com owned by the Loach brothers.

I have only just recently found out that they used to be called Micronet
Showroom and I am having nothing but trouble with them, nothing but lies
and excuses comes from their mouths, the car should have been here in
September, but I am still waiting, even though I've paid them the final
amount in full!

I just wish that I had come across this website earlier and avoided the
mistake of logging onto their website.

The article that was mentioned from the OFT has been pasted below for all
to see:




Internet car dealers give undertakings to the OFT

142/06 4 October 2006

Following action by the OFT and Nottingham City Trading Standards
Service,
Micronet Showroom, a Nottingham based business which acts as a motor
vehicle import agent, has agreed to be more open and fair in dealing with
customers.

All of Micronet Showroom's operations are carried out over the internet,
including the sourcing, purchasing and importing of vehicles from Europe.

Although Micronet Showroom is presently not trading, the OFT has secured
undertakings from David and Richard Loach, who run this business, in
order
to regulate their future conduct.

Consumers complained to Nottingham City Trading Standards that they had
ordered cars from the company, paid for them in full and were then told
that delivery would be later than previously indicated and/or the price
of
the vehicle had increased. Customers also complained they were subjected
to
long delays for delivery and many cancelled their orders. However, those
that did so said that they had difficulty in obtaining a full refund.

The Loach brothers have both signed undertakings promising to reimburse
any sum paid by, or on behalf of consumers, within thirty days of the
cancellation of the contract and provide consumers with clear
information,
as specified under the Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations
2000. They have also agreed not to publish or disseminate misleading
advertising, as specified under the Control of Misleading Advertising
Regulations 1998.

These undertakings, which have been given without any admission of
liability, apply to any businesses carried out by either of the Loach
brothers now or in the future.

Christine Wade, Assistant Chief Executive, Consumer Advice and Trading
Standards, said:

'Customers should be able to rely on any business to provide accurate
information and provide an agreed product or a full refund on time. The
OFT will closely monitor the undertakings which have been signed, and
will
if necessary take court action if these undertakings are breached.'

NOTES

1. If formal undertakings are not complied with the OFT can ask the Court
to formalise them. If they are subsequently breached the offender/s may
be
held in contempt of court and may be imprisoned, fined or have their
assets
seized.

2. The Enterprise Act 2002 came into force on 20 June 2003, replacing the
consumer provisions of the Fair Trading Act and the Stop Now Regulations.

3. The Enterprise Act improves consumer protection by giving enforcers
strengthened powers to obtain court orders against traders that breach a
range of consumer legislation; controlling activities such as misleading
advertising, misleading price indications, lotteries, sale of goods and
services, underage sales, estate agency, misleading health claims, trade
descriptions, mock auctions, timeshare, unfair terms in consumer
contracts, doorstep selling, distance selling, package travel and
consumer
credit.

4. The Control of Misleading Advertisements Regulations 1988 came into
force on 20 June 1988 implementing an EC Directive on misleading
advertising. The regulations aim to protect the interests of consumers
and
businesses from misleading advertising or advertisements that make
prohibited comparisons.

5. Advertisement means any form of representation that is made in
connection with a trade, business, craft or profession in order to
promote
the supply or transfer of goods or services, immovable property, rights
or
obligations.

6. The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000, came into
force on 31 October 2000. These Regulations gave new rights to consumers
in the area of home shopping where transactions take place with no face
to
face contact, such as online sales, mail order and telesales. Under these
Regulations consumers have specific rights including rights to: clear
information, a seven-day cooling off period and further protection
against
fraudulent use of a credit card.

7. The Regulations apply to almost all types of distance shopping but
there are exceptions: business to business contracts, certain financial
services, sales concluded at an auction, contracts for the sale of land,
and sales by vending machine. Some parts of the regulations do not apply
to: deliveries of food and beverages for everyday consumption, or to
contracts for transport, accommodation, catering or leisure services
where
these are provided on specific dates or within specified periods, or to
timeshare and package holidays, or to contracts made in the course of
FSMA
regulated business.

My father would like to contact some others who have suffered at the
thieving hands of The Loach brothers, he is currently in the hole for nearly
40K and trying to get his money back as we speak.

I would appreciate anyone contacting me on and
forming a group to try and retrieve our money

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