Anyone heard what is happening to the duty on LPG for road use yet.

Mr Brown was supposed to let everyone know the outcome of the review on fuel
taxation by November.

I (like many others) am holding back on investing until I know for certain
what (if any) changes there are around the corner.

I remember promises being made about keeping the duty on diesel lower than
petrol because it is better for the environment and more important to the
economy.

If/when the duty is raised, it will not go up overnight (except in France).
You should be safe for the life of your next car at least.

Anyone heard what is happening to the duty on LPG for road use yet.

Mr Brown was supposed to let everyone know the outcome of the review on
fuel
taxation by November.

I (like many others) am holding back on investing until I know for certain
what (if any) changes there are around the corner.


www.4vans.com

"DP" no@mail wrote in message ...
I remember promises being made about keeping the duty on diesel lower than
petrol because it is better for the environment

This simply isn't true though. Diesel cars produce more of virtually every
pollutant than petrol cars.

Also, for each litre of diesel burned, about 12% more CO2 is released than
for each litre of petrol.

So the claim that diesels produce less CO2 works only if it is at least 12%
more economical than a petrol vehicle.

Really, the tax on diesels should be higher to represent its higher carbon
potential (not to mention other crap).

and more important to the
economy.

But a low general tax burden is good for the economy.

If/when the duty is raised, it will not go up overnight (except in
France).
You should be safe for the life of your next car at least.

Anyone heard what is happening to the duty on LPG for road use yet.

Mr Brown was supposed to let everyone know the outcome of the review on
fuel
taxation by November.

I (like many others) am holding back on investing until I know for
certain
what (if any) changes there are around the corner.


www.4vans.com

Gareth Roberts wrote:

|| Anyone heard what is happening to the duty on LPG for road use yet.
||
|| Mr Brown was supposed to let everyone know the outcome of the review
|| on fuel taxation by November.
||
|| I (like many others) am holding back on investing until I know for
|| certain what (if any) changes there are around the corner.

I'm with you on this. I've been thinking about gassing the Range Rover for
while now, but this news just puts it off the agenda. Given the fact that
fuel economy is worse on lpg, it will only need the price of lpg to rise to
about 60p/litre for gas to become more expensive per mile than unleaded.
Round here (West Wales) it's already over 40p. If GB raises the duty so
that the price increases by (say) 10p a year, not only may you never recover
the conversion cost but you will be lumbered with a gas system you will not
use. The only benefit will be the increased range of the vehicle.

I'm waiting to see what the budget delivers in April, but I'm not hopeful.


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Rich
Tiggrr - V8 trialler
RR 4.6HSE

"Oliver Keating" wrote in message ...

"DP" no@mail wrote in message ...
I remember promises being made about keeping the duty on diesel lower than
petrol because it is better for the environment

This simply isn't true though. Diesel cars produce more of virtually every
pollutant than petrol cars.

Also, for each litre of diesel burned, about 12% more CO2 is released than
for each litre of petrol.

So the claim that diesels produce less CO2 works only if it is at least 12%
more economical than a petrol vehicle.

I have a 1.4 dual Fuel Peugeot 306, I get 40mpg on petrol.
My partner has a 1.9 Diesel Turbo 306 and can get 55-60mpg.

Thats 37-50% further than I manage, and quite a bit more than the 12% you were looking for.

Ewan

Ewan

out of interest ? how many mpg's to you get on LPG on the dual fuel Pug. I'd
have thought that you would run it on lpg all the time and not bother with
petrol

Steve

"Ewan Villiers" wrote in message
...
"Oliver Keating" wrote in message
...

"DP" no@mail wrote in message
...
I remember promises being made about keeping the duty on diesel lower
than
petrol because it is better for the environment

This simply isn't true though. Diesel cars produce more of virtually
every
pollutant than petrol cars.

Also, for each litre of diesel burned, about 12% more CO2 is released
than
for each litre of petrol.

So the claim that diesels produce less CO2 works only if it is at least
12%
more economical than a petrol vehicle.

I have a 1.4 dual Fuel Peugeot 306, I get 40mpg on petrol.
My partner has a 1.9 Diesel Turbo 306 and can get 55-60mpg.

Thats 37-50% further than I manage, and quite a bit more than the 12% you
were looking for.

Ewan

"Steve" wrote in message ...
Ewan

out of interest ? how many mpg's to you get on LPG on the dual fuel Pug. I'd
have thought that you would run it on lpg all the time and not bother with
petrol

30-32mpg on Gas.

I've been having idling problems with the car when the engines cold
its more stable on petrol so I warm up on petrol.

I remember promises being made about keeping the duty on diesel lower
than
petrol because it is better for the environment

This simply isn't true though. Diesel cars produce more of virtually every
pollutant than petrol cars.

Also, for each litre of diesel burned, about 12% more CO2 is released than
for each litre of petrol.

Before cats started being fitted to most petrol cars, they produced more
polutants than diesels. Diesels got a bad name because their polutants,
while being less harmful, are more visible. Both carbon dioxide and the more
harmful carbon monoxide are invisible.

So the claim that diesels produce less CO2 works only if it is at least
12%
more economical than a petrol vehicle.

Which they are.

Really, the tax on diesels should be higher to represent its higher carbon
potential (not to mention other crap).

and more important to the
economy.

But a low general tax burden is good for the economy.

Within reason, yes. That is why I am against the high taxes on motoring. In
New Zealand the health service and schools are funded by the government and
they have less oil than us yet petrol costs 30p per litre and the car tax is
£60 per year. In the UAE, an oil economy, you can fill your tank up for £5.
It is not necessary for our economy to have such high motoring taxes.

I get angry when I hear about plans to charge for motorway use or an extra
tax to pay for the disposal of abandonned cars. The motorist is already
paying for so many other things as well as the roads.


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I get angry when I hear about plans to charge for motorway use or an extra
tax to pay for the disposal of abandonned cars. The motorist is already
paying for so many other things as well as the roads.

Yes but so are us smokers and beer drinkers as well. Taxes are designed to
raise money. The veneer of fairness is a veneer - that's all.

Best Wishes

Jos

On or around Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:42:14 -0000, "Jos Vernon"
enlightened us thusly:

I get angry when I hear about plans to charge for motorway use or an extra
tax to pay for the disposal of abandonned cars. The motorist is already
paying for so many other things as well as the roads.

Yes but so are us smokers and beer drinkers as well. Taxes are designed to
raise money. The veneer of fairness is a veneer - that's all.


what's really wrong is the mount of such money that's wasted. We have a
fairly high tax burden overall in this country, though not, I think, as high
as some. But the level of services etc. we receive falls short.

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