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Old July 22nd 03, 10:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg
Chris
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"Mark Vaughan" wrote in message
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Ive just done a DIY installation on my Mondeo 2.5V^ Duratec Engine.

Majority

(snip)

Hi Mark

Great work with the conversion, this is something I am about to do myself
but I am having real problems with the certification side of things to keep
my insurance company happy. How did you go about certification?

Cheers

Chris


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Old July 23rd 03, 08:38 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg
Simon Barr
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In article , Chris wrote:

"Mark Vaughan" wrote in message
...
Ive just done a DIY installation on my Mondeo 2.5V^ Duratec Engine.

Majority

(snip)

Hi Mark

Great work with the conversion, this is something I am about to do myself
but I am having real problems with the certification side of things to keep
my insurance company happy. How did you go about certification?

Cheers

Chris


I'm planning to buy and convert a Land Rover V8 later in the year and I
looked into certification.

Not sure where you are situated but these people aren't to far from me
and wanted 70UKP to certify a self install.

http://www.gaspoweruk.com/

If they are to far from you you may find an installer locally who is
willing to certify your install.

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Old July 24th 03, 01:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg
Stewart Hargrave
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From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Mike Ledieu:

Stewart - your experience with Direct Line is the opposite to mine - at
first they made no mention of requiring a certificate but, when I came to
notifying them that my conversion was completed they then wanted a
certificate of installation. Several other insurers I have contacted have
also asked for a certificate and I am currently in a stalemate and unable to
run on gas. I have also found installers VERY reluctant to certify my
installation. I think things have got much stricter during the last 6
months. When did you get yours past DL?


I guess it's three or more years ago now.

It was curious that I did check before hand to ask if they needed a
certificate. At first they seem confused by the fact that I was to do
the installation myself. They then confirmed that they needed a cert.
from a professional insataller. I can't remember their form of words,
but I did establish that it didn't need to be an LPGA approved
installer.

After I'd fitted the kit, I got the non-LPGA kit supplier to check it
and issue a cert. This was part of the purchase deal. But when I
phoned DL, certificate in hand, they said they only needed to record
the fact of the conversion. I did specifically ask them if they needed
to see the cert. and they said no.

I have noticed, and specifically queried, that renewal notices state
that there are no modifications to the car, but they assure me that
that have the relevant details and that everything is in order.

It has occured to me that I simply got lucky over a failure in their
admin., but I have also taken every opportunity to establish that
things are OK.

It's depressing to hear that people are now having trouble getting
certification and insurance. I wonder if this is the LPGA forcing
legislation by the back door - they can't get a change in the law
prohibiting self-fitting, so they put pressure on the inscos so that a
self fitted kit is impossible to insure, and thus effectively banned.

Can your kit supplier help, either with recommending someone to
certify it, or with an insco who is OK with these things? There are
some knowledgeable installers who post here from time to time, maybe
some of them can help.


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Old July 24th 03, 11:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg
Ben
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I'm presently insured with MoreThan on my Cavalier (DIY conversion -
see above posts)and all they wanted was a fax copy of "a certificate"
from someone who had inspected the car - no need to be LPGA approved.
The people who supplied me with the kit inspected and certified the
install as part of the price.

I'm looking to change my insurance fairly soon and spoke to Direct
Line and Tescos yesterday who are both offering cheaper quotes than
MoreThan. Direct Line said that the certificate must be from an LPGA
approved installer and so that was them crossed off the list, whereas
Tescos said that they wouldn't require any certificate at all. Tescos
it is then!

Ben
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Old July 25th 03, 06:45 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg
Dave Griffs
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I'm also with Directline, and I told them about my conversion over a
year ago, and they didn't want a certificate. My renewel is due next
month, so I'll see what happens. As I have informed them, and they
added the modification to the insurance schedule, I can't see a
problem.

Dave

Stewart wrote in message . ..
From a point at sea, to the circles of your mind, this is Mike Ledieu:

Stewart - your experience with Direct Line is the opposite to mine - at
first they made no mention of requiring a certificate but, when I came to
notifying them that my conversion was completed they then wanted a
certificate of installation. Several other insurers I have contacted have
also asked for a certificate and I am currently in a stalemate and unable to
run on gas. I have also found installers VERY reluctant to certify my
installation. I think things have got much stricter during the last 6
months. When did you get yours past DL?


I guess it's three or more years ago now.

It was curious that I did check before hand to ask if they needed a
certificate. At first they seem confused by the fact that I was to do
the installation myself. They then confirmed that they needed a cert.
from a professional insataller. I can't remember their form of words,
but I did establish that it didn't need to be an LPGA approved
installer.

After I'd fitted the kit, I got the non-LPGA kit supplier to check it
and issue a cert. This was part of the purchase deal. But when I
phoned DL, certificate in hand, they said they only needed to record
the fact of the conversion. I did specifically ask them if they needed
to see the cert. and they said no.

I have noticed, and specifically queried, that renewal notices state
that there are no modifications to the car, but they assure me that
that have the relevant details and that everything is in order.

It has occured to me that I simply got lucky over a failure in their
admin., but I have also taken every opportunity to establish that
things are OK.

It's depressing to hear that people are now having trouble getting
certification and insurance. I wonder if this is the LPGA forcing
legislation by the back door - they can't get a change in the law
prohibiting self-fitting, so they put pressure on the inscos so that a
self fitted kit is impossible to insure, and thus effectively banned.

Can your kit supplier help, either with recommending someone to
certify it, or with an insco who is OK with these things? There are
some knowledgeable installers who post here from time to time, maybe
some of them can help.

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Old August 9th 03, 10:08 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg
David Cawkwell
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Default d-i-y gas conversion

I'm insured with the coop and they don't care. Switch insurance.

"Chris" wrote in message
...

"Mark Vaughan" wrote in message
...
Ive just done a DIY installation on my Mondeo 2.5V^ Duratec Engine.

Majority

(snip)

Hi Mark

Great work with the conversion, this is something I am about to do myself
but I am having real problems with the certification side of things to

keep
my insurance company happy. How did you go about certification?

Cheers

Chris




 




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