Does anybody know whether there is an "exactly the right place" to drill
for wing mirrors on a Minor 1000?

All the ones I have seen are on the highest point of the wing, but how
far back from the headlamp is the hole?

Jim

Jim Warren wrote:
Does anybody know whether there is an "exactly the right place" to drill
for wing mirrors on a Minor 1000?

All the ones I have seen are on the highest point of the wing, but how
far back from the headlamp is the hole?

I've seen this discussion for other cars (mainly MGs) of that period and
the consensus seems to be that the mirror should be in line with the
front wheel centre. How does that look on a MM?

dan

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Jim Warren wrote:
Does anybody know whether there is an "exactly the right place" to drill
for wing mirrors on a Minor 1000?

All the ones I have seen are on the highest point of the wing, but how
far back from the headlamp is the hole?

Looks apart, you need to position it so the image is the same size as the
one in the rear view mirror.

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Dan Smithers wrote:
Jim Warren wrote:
Does anybody know whether there is an "exactly the right place" to drill
for wing mirrors on a Minor 1000?

All the ones I have seen are on the highest point of the wing, but how
far back from the headlamp is the hole?

I've seen this discussion for other cars (mainly MGs) of that period and
the consensus seems to be that the mirror should be in line with the
front wheel centre. How does that look on a MM?

dan

The bonnet has a bulge in it, which makes it a lot higher than the top
of the wings, and it gets worse the nearer you get to the windscreen. A
mirror placed on the nearside wing in line with the front wheel centre
would be invisible to the driver, unless either the driver or the mirror
were particularly tall.

I phoned Charlie Ware's in the end. Apparently though wing mirrors were
not fitted to saloons as a factory fit, they were an optional extra on
the Traveller and a standard fit on vans. The location for the hole is
on the very top of the wing and 8 inches back from the front edge.

I have just measured, and that places them level with the front edge of
the front tyres. And a mock-up with cardboard shows that location to be
clearly visible on both wings if a 100mm mirror stem is used.

So problem solved, but I thought I would put the details here for posterity.

Jim

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Jim Warren wrote:
Does anybody know whether there is an "exactly the right place" to drill
for wing mirrors on a Minor 1000?

All the ones I have seen are on the highest point of the wing, but how
far back from the headlamp is the hole?

Looks apart, you need to position it so the image is the same size as the
one in the rear view mirror.

Well, I have established the correct location (see my other message) and
have ordered the round mirrors with convex glass because that was the
Morris standard. [1]

I can only hope that when they arrive they are compatible with the
interior mirror for image size.

Jim

[1] I once had a car fitted with flat glass wing mirrors, and the
headlamp glare from following vehicles was intense at times, so I would
have ordered convex regardless.

Jim Warren wrote:
Dan Smithers wrote:
Jim Warren wrote:
Does anybody know whether there is an "exactly the right place" to drill
for wing mirrors on a Minor 1000?

All the ones I have seen are on the highest point of the wing, but how
far back from the headlamp is the hole?

I've seen this discussion for other cars (mainly MGs) of that period and
the consensus seems to be that the mirror should be in line with the
front wheel centre. How does that look on a MM?

dan

The bonnet has a bulge in it, which makes it a lot higher than the top
of the wings, and it gets worse the nearer you get to the windscreen. A
mirror placed on the nearside wing in line with the front wheel centre
would be invisible to the driver, unless either the driver or the mirror
were particularly tall.

I phoned Charlie Ware's in the end. Apparently though wing mirrors were
not fitted to saloons as a factory fit, they were an optional extra on
the Traveller and a standard fit on vans. The location for the hole is
on the very top of the wing and 8 inches back from the front edge.

I have just measured, and that places them level with the front edge of
the front tyres. And a mock-up with cardboard shows that location to be
clearly visible on both wings if a 100mm mirror stem is used.

So problem solved, but I thought I would put the details here for
posterity.

Jim


Looks about correct, I was trying to find an old photo of mine which was
a ute, that had wing mirrors, this was require of you had the back
loaded. Remember they rotated easily, always straightening them up.

Out of interest, this must have been a pursuit car,

http://www.mildred-the-minor.co.uk/policecar.html

Rob wrote:


Out of interest, this must have been a pursuit car,

http://www.mildred-the-minor.co.uk/policecar.html

Thanks for the link - it made me smile. And it has wing mirrors roughly
where I am about to put mine!

As an aside, I looked around the rest of the site and found Mildred's
picture. The "eyebrows" over the headlamps are wrong for the year.
According to the model variations in the official workshop manual, they
were discontinued when the sidelight/indicator was added beneath the
headlamp. Mildred has both the side/indicator lights and the eyebrows.

Having said that, I like them, and wish my car had them.

Jim

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Jim Warren wrote:
As an aside, I looked around the rest of the site and found Mildred's
picture. The "eyebrows" over the headlamps are wrong for the year.
According to the model variations in the official workshop manual, they
were discontinued when the sidelight/indicator was added beneath the
headlamp. Mildred has both the side/indicator lights and the eyebrows.

I thought they were aftermarket additions. My '54 MG Magnette came with
them when I bought in in '63.

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Rob wrote:


Out of interest, this must have been a pursuit car,

http://www.mildred-the-minor.co.uk/policecar.html

Thanks for the link - it made me smile. And it has wing mirrors roughly
where I am about to put mine!

As an aside, I looked around the rest of the site and found Mildred's
picture. The "eyebrows" over the headlamps are wrong for the year.
According to the model variations in the official workshop manual, they
were discontinued when the sidelight/indicator was added beneath the
headlamp. Mildred has both the side/indicator lights and the eyebrows.

Having said that, I like them, and wish my car had them.



They were a pretty common bolt-on goody in the fifties and sixties. My
first car, a 1954 Standard 8 had them.

Incidentally, they were known to the doctors in A&E as "kidney cutters".

Geoff MacK