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  #101 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
SteveH
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Adrian wrote:

":Jerry:" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

your understanding is less than someone who has seen these callipers
(and the Rover P6), never mind worked on them.


puts hand up
I've never seen a P6 rear caliper up close, but I'm wondering exactly wtf
Conor's on about...

I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be wound
back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like it's a
sliding-yoke single-piston design...


Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.
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  #102 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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":Jerry:" wrote in message
...

snip

What 'slack', again you apply demonstrate that you do not understand
how these callipers work. the fact that you seem to have been (very)
lucky does mitigate that you (to put it simply) bodged a very simple
job.


....does *NOT* mitigate...


  #103 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Adrian
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(SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be wound
back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like it's a
sliding-yoke single-piston design...


Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.


OK, so you can get a G-clamp onto the piston.

It's just down to "Will the clamp turn it rather than push it?" (Very
unlikely ime of turny-piston calipers) and "Is there anything solid
enough on t'other side...?"

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages...bly_small.html
Looks like there may well be.

Either way, it's still a bodge.
  #104 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
:Jerry:
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"SteveH" wrote in message
...
Adrian wrote:

":Jerry:" gurgled happily, sounding much
like
they were saying:

your understanding is less than someone who has seen these
callipers
(and the Rover P6), never mind worked on them.


puts hand up
I've never seen a P6 rear caliper up close, but I'm wondering
exactly wtf
Conor's on about...

I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be
wound
back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like
it's a
sliding-yoke single-piston design...


Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.


....but that's not a Rover P6 calliper...


  #105 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
:Jerry:
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"Adrian" wrote in message
...
(SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they
were saying:

I really fail to see any way in which a wind-back piston can be
wound
back with a G-clamp, especially given that it doesn't sound like
it's a
sliding-yoke single-piston design...


Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.


OK, so you can get a G-clamp onto the piston.


But not on the P6 Rover...


It's just down to "Will the clamp turn it rather than push it?"
(Very
unlikely ime of turny-piston calipers) and "Is there anything solid
enough on t'other side...?"


....the calliper is mounted, via a rather involved mounting/pivot bolt,
to the diff carrier casting and even if one was to unship the calliper
from the car, were one normally has a casting there is nothing more
than a tin cover protecting part of the internal handbrake mechanism.

Partial parts diagram here
http://www.anugraha.org.uk/rover/par...r_cal_ipb2.gif, shows the
cover and some of the internal components.

Either way, it's still a bodge.


Indeed....


  #106 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:48 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Adrian
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":Jerry:" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.


OK, so you can get a G-clamp onto the piston.


But not on the P6 Rover...


shakes fist at SteveH
That's the last time I believe him...

It's just down to "Will the clamp turn it rather than push it?" (Very
unlikely ime of turny-piston calipers) and "Is there anything solid
enough on t'other side...?"


...the calliper is mounted, via a rather involved mounting/pivot bolt,
to the diff carrier casting and even if one was to unship the calliper
from the car, were one normally has a casting there is nothing more than
a tin cover protecting part of the internal handbrake mechanism.

Partial parts diagram here
http://www.anugraha.org.uk/rover/par...r_cal_ipb2.gif, shows the
cover and some of the internal components.


Ah, the good ol' British Motor Industry... Why make something simple...?
  #107 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
SteveH
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:Jerry: wrote:

Here's a picture.

http://www.trevor-turner.co.uk/pages/Caliper_Small.html

Definitely designed for being wound in with the appropriate tool.


...but that's not a Rover P6 calliper...


****ing Google images.

That turned up on a search for a P6 caliper, ffs.
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  #108 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
SteveH
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Adrian wrote:

OK, so you can get a G-clamp onto the piston.


But not on the P6 Rover...


shakes fist at SteveH
That's the last time I believe him...


Shake your fist at Google, it's all their fault for putting it in an
image search for 'Rover P6 rear caliper'. ****wits.
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  #109 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 04:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
:Jerry:
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"Adrian" wrote in message
...
snip

Ah, the good ol' British Motor Industry... Why make something
simple...?


Hmm, they were simple, when compared to such delights as the front
callipers (that included the handbrake) fitted to Alfa Suds etc....


  #110 (permalink)  
Old May 23rd 08, 05:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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In article , SteveH
says...
Conor wrote:

So you're still a knuckle dragging mechanic then? At least I had the
sense to see it for what it was - the typical refuge of the school
remedial classes.


I'd be very careful going down this road....

I can only speak from experience from the type of person I worked with
and saw at college.

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looking good either. - Scott Adams
 




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