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Sacrilege - Rover P6 turbo diesel?



 
 
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Old April 3rd 08, 04:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
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Badger wrote:
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I've measured the Ford Endura 1.8TD in our Mondeo and one of those

would
just about fit. Can they be bolted directly to a Sierra 5-speed 'box?
Any other ideas?
Needs to be modern enough to be economical and not too slow; cheap and
available; simple electronics; not too heavy; bonus if it doesn't sound
like a tractor.


Same engine was used in the P100 pickup,


If it was, then they've changed the packaging quite markedly. I had a
P100 TD and the engine looked completely different to the lump in our
Mondeo. It was also an awful lot slower, only some of which could have
been down the the extra weight of the pickup.


Unless it wasn't, in which case I may have my wires crossed. I thought the
early P100's had the peugeot (?) 2.3 lump, and the later ones the ford
1.8td??




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Old April 3rd 08, 04:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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Badger wrote:
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But a Triumph Stag engine would provide a nice touch of irony.


Now, I really like your thinking!


Coming soon: the Janglia: a Mk IX Jag with a 994 Anglia engine.
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Old April 3rd 08, 05:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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Kevin Poole wrote:


Badger wrote:
"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
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But a Triumph Stag engine would provide a nice touch of irony.


Now, I really like your thinking!


Coming soon: the Janglia: a Mk IX Jag with a 994 Anglia engine.


I remember reading years ago of a city with a mayor's limousine fitted
with a Morris Minor engine, because it always drove round urban streets
and never went above 30mph, and a small engine was much more economical
when stationary in traffic.

I wonder who bought it when it was replaced?

Jim
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Old April 3rd 08, 08:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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Willy Eckerslyke (Willy Eckerslyke ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

But a Triumph Stag engine would provide a nice touch of irony.


But the Stag v8 was more aluminiumy, wasn't it?
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Old April 3rd 08, 11:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Willy Eckerslyke (Willy Eckerslyke ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

But a Triumph Stag engine would provide a nice touch of irony.


But the Stag v8 was more aluminiumy, wasn't it?


Nope, rover V8 is all ally, Stag V8 is a cast iron block with ally heads.


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Old April 4th 08, 08:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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Badger wrote:

If it was, then they've changed the packaging quite markedly. I had a
P100 TD and the engine looked completely different to the lump in our
Mondeo. It was also an awful lot slower, only some of which could have
been down the the extra weight of the pickup.


Unless it wasn't, in which case I may have my wires crossed. I thought the
early P100's had the peugeot (?) 2.3 lump, and the later ones the ford
1.8td??


I think it's just a different generation of 1.8TD. Mine had an earlier
engine than our W reg Mondeo 1.8TD. In fact the engine looked identical
(apart from the turbo) to one from an ancient Fiesta a friend was
breaking at the time. The Mondeo one is an Endura, so I guess the
earlier ones were something else.

The Peugeot engine, on the other hand, would be a cracker (I had one in
a Range Rover), but far too heavy.
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Old April 4th 08, 09:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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Willy Eckerslyke (Willy Eckerslyke ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The Peugeot engine, on the other hand, would be a cracker (I had one in
a Range Rover), but far too heavy.


If you're thinking PSA, how about a 1.9 Turbo XUD? Or the 2.1 12v from an
XM/605? The XUD was used N-S in various 4x4s and Eastern European stuff.
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Old April 4th 08, 11:00 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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In article ,
Willy Eckerslyke wrote:

Kevin Poole wrote:

They're a bit new for me to know much about, but since the P6 was
available with the V8, as was the SD1, and the SD1 was also available
with the VM 2.4/2.5 diesel, is one of them a possibility?


I only know them from Land Rover circles where they're seen as a bit of
a low point. Do they have a better reputation when fitted in cars? They
were used in the 825 too weren't they?
Hmm, could be a distinct posibility. Thanks.



The VM is nasty, head gasgets are service items.

Taking it on a stage, since 200 and 300tdi engines fit roughly the same
size hole in Solihull's other products, you really could have a cracker
of a car.


Yes, someone locally suggested the 200tdi - with LT77 gearbox. A couple
of years ago, their prices would have put them out of the running, but
they do seem to have dropped a lot recently as more and more rusty
Discos get scrapped.
But what's the weight like? Is a 200tdi less of a lump than older Land
Rover engines?


Very, very heavy, in a P6 the sump would drag along the road !

My money would be on a Trooper TD, 2.3 engine an box,light, nice and
small, lots of grunt and still going strong while the rest of the car
has rotted around it. And with some work to the front you even have the
option of 4WD.....

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Cheers, Geoff.
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Old April 4th 08, 12:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Willy Eckerslyke (Willy Eckerslyke ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The Peugeot engine, on the other hand, would be a cracker (I had one in
a Range Rover), but far too heavy.


If you're thinking PSA, how about a 1.9 Turbo XUD? Or the 2.1 12v from an
XM/605? The XUD was used N-S in various 4x4s and Eastern European stuff.


That would be a good idea. Used Xantias with TD motors in them are cheap and
plentiful.

What was the power output of the 2000TC? Does a 1.9TD compare?

Mike P


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Old April 4th 08, 12:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Willy Eckerslyke
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Mike P wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
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Willy Eckerslyke (Willy Eckerslyke ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The Peugeot engine, on the other hand, would be a cracker (I had one in
a Range Rover), but far too heavy.

If you're thinking PSA, how about a 1.9 Turbo XUD? Or the 2.1 12v from an
XM/605? The XUD was used N-S in various 4x4s and Eastern European stuff.


That would be a good idea. Used Xantias with TD motors in them are cheap and
plentiful.


Indeed. Damned good engines too, I'm told.
Where would I find a 5-speed RWD gearbox for one?

What was the power output of the 2000TC?


Around 110BHP, I believe. Or a fair bit less on this car after someone
stuck a single carb on it. (I'd guess that was to avoid paying for a
replacement exhaust manifold and downpipes, which are seriously
expensive for the TC.)

Does a 1.9TD compare?


Can't be _that_ different, can it?
 




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