On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:29:37 -0000, GbH wrote:

Without a SORN renewal this mis-registration of keeper might not come
to light for years if at all.

Again, so what?

You'll be the one they will be come looking for n years down the line. And
the DVLA being the DVLA they won't let go unless you have some pretty
irifutable evidence regarding your disposal of the vehicle. Saying you
sold to a bloke for £50 5 years ago won't cut any ice...

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Austin Shackles
wrote:
On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:07:42 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman
(News)" enlightened us thusly:

In article ,
GbH wrote:
I'd say the main reason the excise duty hasn't been abolished and
put on fuel tax is the need to register the vehicle details each
year. It's all very well saying it should be your responsibility
to register any changes only when they happen but many simply
wouldn't bother.

Pardon me for asking, but just what is the NEED to re-register the
vehicle every year, or register it in the first place except as a
revenue generator?

If you can't work that out for yourself I can't be bothered telling
you.

It's not re-registering, as you well know, DP.

It is confirming various details.

I'm starting to think you're a troll.

I certainly could 'troll' by asking just why some seem so scared of
the authorities knowing who owns a vehicle.

Or asking WHY they need to know such?
What does it benefit me?

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In article ,
GbH wrote:
I certainly could 'troll' by asking just why some seem so scared of
the authorities knowing who owns a vehicle.

Or asking WHY they need to know such?
What does it benefit me?

Well, if a larger stronger nastier neighbour took a fancy to your vehicle
and pinched it and said to anyone who asked it was his and had never
belonged to you, how could you prove him wrong? Or the police clearly see
a vehicle looking the same as yours run down a child and kill her? And
decide it has to belong to you?

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On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:04:50 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
enlightened us thusly:

I certainly could 'troll' by asking just why some seem so scared of the
authorities knowing who owns a vehicle.


and it's eff-all to do with that - they KNOW I'm the registered keeper,
although that, in fact, proves nothing about ownership.

Let me make it completely plain, this is NOT ABOUT REGISTRATION. It's about
waste of time and resources inherent in my telling them repeatedly that yes,
this vehicle is still not on the road, once I've told them it's off-road,
there it should rest unless or until it goes back on the road, when it needs
to be licensed, or scrapped or sold, when it becomes someone else's
responsibility.

It's more the way you appear to disagree with more or less anything in this
group on principle.


As for trolling, pretty much every post you make, it seems to me, disagrees
on principle with anything that's posted.
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On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:15:12 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
enlightened us thusly:

Well, if a larger stronger nastier neighbour took a fancy to your vehicle
and pinched it and said to anyone who asked it was his and had never
belonged to you, how could you prove him wrong? Or the police clearly see
a vehicle looking the same as yours run down a child and kill her? And
decide it has to belong to you?

Oh FFS... As I said in my other reply, it's NOT about registrastion and the
registered keeper is not necessarily the owner.

prat.
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On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:40:41 +0000, Ian Rawlings
enlightened us thusly:

On 2008-01-25, Austin Shackles wrote:

It's not re-registering, as you well know, DP. I'm starting to think you're
a troll.

He is, catch up Austin ;-) Mr. Killfile is your bestest friend.

he's very close to it.
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http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ \ ...and Kill them.
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In article ,
Austin Shackles wrote:
On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:15:12 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
enlightened us thusly:

Well, if a larger stronger nastier neighbour took a fancy to your
vehicle and pinched it and said to anyone who asked it was his and had
never belonged to you, how could you prove him wrong? Or the police
clearly see a vehicle looking the same as yours run down a child and
kill her? And decide it has to belong to you?

Oh FFS... As I said in my other reply, it's NOT about registrastion and
the registered keeper is not necessarily the owner.

Ok then. Read GbH's point *carefully* and give your answer to it. To
remind you he asks just why registration is necessary in the first place.
Not SORN, but registration. I'll look forward to it.

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In article ,
Austin Shackles wrote:
On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:04:50 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
enlightened us thusly:

I certainly could 'troll' by asking just why some seem so scared of the
authorities knowing who owns a vehicle.


and it's eff-all to do with that - they KNOW I'm the registered keeper,
although that, in fact, proves nothing about ownership.

Ownership isn't necessarily the issue but who is the current keeper of the
vehicle.

Let me make it completely plain, this is NOT ABOUT REGISTRATION.

Then why jump on me when GbH asks me:-

'Pardon me for asking, but just what is the NEED to re-register the
vehicle every year, or register it in the first place except as a
revenue generator?'

As by that some *do* want to bring registration as such into the thread.


It's about waste of time and resources inherent in my telling them
repeatedly that yes, this vehicle is still not on the road, once I've
told them it's off-road, there it should rest unless or until it goes
back on the road, when it needs to be licensed, or scrapped or sold,
when it becomes someone else's responsibility.

It makes it an active act where you are prompted to do something. Rather
than just ignore or possibly forget to do it when a change is made. As
human nature being as it is many will do. *You* may not being an organised
individual, but these things happen because many aren't.

It's more the way you appear to disagree with more or less anything in
this group on principle.

That simply isn't true. And you can easily prove it to yourself by
searching on my name and this group.

As for trolling, pretty much every post you make, it seems to me,
disagrees on principle with anything that's posted.

See above.

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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:28:47 +0000, Austin Shackles
wrote:

On or around Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:40:41 +0000, Ian Rawlings
enlightened us thusly:

On 2008-01-25, Austin Shackles wrote:

It's not re-registering, as you well know, DP. I'm starting to think you're
a troll.

He is, catch up Austin ;-) Mr. Killfile is your bestest friend.

he's very close to it.

Fer chrissakes, put him in there and then stop wittering on and on
about him.

On 2008-01-26, Dean Dark wrote:

Fer chrissakes, put him in there and then stop wittering on and on
about him.

About who?

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