On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:47:26 -0700, Ian
wrote:

On 14 Aug, 09:27, (Steve Firth) wrote:

That last isn't always true. A couple of years ago I spotted a series of
scams from sellers with very good feedback.

I believe the traditional method is to have two scammers each buy
fifty things from each other at a 50p buy-it-now price and give good
feedback. Bingo: +50 each for a few quid in fees.

Wouldn't work. Feedback is only incremented from different sellers. My
feedback is 337 but I have 383 individual positive comments (and no
negs, before anyone says something!)
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Regards, Chris (Please take out my car to reply by plain text email)
---1967 Riley Elf---1978 Mini 1000---1971 Mini Clubman---
----1972 Mini Clubman estate----------1979 Ford Capri----
-----1966 Triumph Herald Estate------1957 Standard 8-----

"Chris Bolus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:47:26 -0700, Ian
wrote:

On 14 Aug, 09:27, (Steve Firth) wrote:

That last isn't always true. A couple of years ago I spotted a
series of
scams from sellers with very good feedback.

I believe the traditional method is to have two scammers each buy
fifty things from each other at a 50p buy-it-now price and give good
feedback. Bingo: +50 each for a few quid in fees.

Wouldn't work. Feedback is only incremented from different sellers.
My
feedback is 337 but I have 383 individual positive comments (and no
negs, before anyone says something!)

But that would be registered identities, that is not the same as
different people.

Ian wrote
On 14 Aug, 09:27, (Steve Firth) wrote:

That last isn't always true. A couple of years ago I spotted a series of
scams from sellers with very good feedback.

I believe the traditional method is to have two scammers each buy
fifty things from each other at a 50p buy-it-now price and give good
feedback. Bingo: +50 each for a few quid in fees.

(moving sideways slightly ..)
If a low feedback score, always worth checking is how long the
individual has used ebay - mine is low, I have been signed up for, ooh,
er, years, but only occasionally buy anything.
--
Roger Hunt

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:08:51 +0100, ":Jerry:"
wrote:


"Chris Bolus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:47:26 -0700, Ian
wrote:

On 14 Aug, 09:27, (Steve Firth) wrote:

That last isn't always true. A couple of years ago I spotted a
series of
scams from sellers with very good feedback.

I believe the traditional method is to have two scammers each buy
fifty things from each other at a 50p buy-it-now price and give good
feedback. Bingo: +50 each for a few quid in fees.

Wouldn't work. Feedback is only incremented from different sellers.
My
feedback is 337 but I have 383 individual positive comments (and no
negs, before anyone says something!)

But that would be registered identities, that is not the same as
different people.

True, but how many scammers can keep an account open for long enough to
bother having 50 different identities just to build feedback on an
account they know will get closed as soon as Ebay get tipped off?

In any case, I suspect many scammers aren't all that bright - even
though they rely on attracting punters who also are not that bright!
--
Regards, Chris (Please take out my car to reply by plain text email)
---1967 Riley Elf---1978 Mini 1000---1971 Mini Clubman---
----1972 Mini Clubman estate----------1979 Ford Capri----
-----1966 Triumph Herald Estate------1957 Standard 8-----

"Chris Bolus" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:08:51 +0100, ":Jerry:"

wrote:

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But that would be registered identities, that is not the same as
different people.

True, but how many scammers can keep an account open for long enough
to
bother having 50 different identities just to build feedback on an
account they know will get closed as soon as Ebay get tipped off?

If that is there aim, very easily, remember that to get that feed back
they don't need to do any scamming - that comes later.

Ian wrote:

On 14 Aug, 09:27, (Steve Firth) wrote:

That last isn't always true. A couple of years ago I spotted a series of
scams from sellers with very good feedback.

I believe the traditional method is to have two scammers each buy
fifty things from each other at a 50p buy-it-now price and give good
feedback. Bingo: +50 each for a few quid in fees.

The ones I spotted were definitely hijacked accounts, sometimes the
positive feedback was in the 1000s. The one common factor was that the
accounts had been inactive for several months before the scammer used
them.

Roger Hunt wrote:

If a low feedback score, always worth checking is how long the
individual has used ebay - mine is low, I have been signed up for, ooh,
er, years, but only occasionally buy anything.

Same here, I'm not driven to buy every bit of tat on eBay.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YKtlK7sn0JQ

Steve Firth wrote:

The ones I spotted were definitely hijacked accounts, sometimes the
positive feedback was in the 1000s. The one common factor was that the
accounts had been inactive for several months before the scammer used
them.

A common factor here seems to be the "Other Classic Cars" category, zero
feedback and "Classified Ads" like the one that started this thread.

130141009401
200137013470
170138836040
200138764362
(It'd be entertaining to watch a meeting between the scammer and the
former owner of that last one!)

In article ,
Roger Hunt wrote:
If a low feedback score, always worth checking is how long the
individual has used ebay - mine is low, I have been signed up for, ooh,
er, years, but only occasionally buy anything.

Yes - if at all suspicious, look at the length of membership. Few are
going to take years to set up a history before scamming.

--
*No I haven't stolen it , I'm just a **** driver*

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:33:40 GMT, Chris Bolus
wrote:

True, but how many scammers can keep an account open for long enough to
bother having 50 different identities just to build feedback on an
account they know will get closed as soon as Ebay get tipped off?

5 minutes web searching will find you a script that does just that. It
even does it through proxies so as to give each id a different IP.