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Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel



 
 
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Old May 27th 07, 11:24 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Classic Car Man
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

I'm looking to find a company that can manufacture replacement items to
pattern in stainless steel instead of chrome and mazak.

I'm looking for bumpers, overriders, radiator, as well as small brightwork
strip.

Willing to travel anywhere in UK.

All help gratefully appreciated


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Old May 27th 07, 12:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Mike G
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel


"Classic Car Man" wrote in message
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I'm looking to find a company that can manufacture replacement items to
pattern in stainless steel instead of chrome and mazak.

I'm looking for bumpers, overriders, radiator, as well as small brightwork
strip.

Willing to travel anywhere in UK.

All help gratefully appreciated


How deep is your pocket?
Speaking as a toolmaker, unless the tooling already exists, you'd be looking
at tens of thousands of pounds for press tooling to manufacture just a
bumper. A radiator shell wouldn't be much cheaper.
Not so much for an overider, but still many thousands of pounds.
IMO potential sales could never justify the setup costs, even if you saved
on the tooling by having them made in the far east.
Mike.

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Old May 27th 07, 01:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Guy King
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

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from "Mike G" contains these words:

IMO potential sales could never justify the setup costs, even if you saved
on the tooling by having them made in the far east.


I imagine he means one-off - in which case he needs someone who can use
an English wheel so basically a proper old fashioned bodybuilder.

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Old May 27th 07, 01:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

In article ,
Classic Car Man wrote:
I'm looking to find a company that can manufacture replacement items to
pattern in stainless steel instead of chrome and mazak.


I'm looking for bumpers, overriders, radiator, as well as small
brightwork strip.


Willing to travel anywhere in UK.


All help gratefully appreciated


Many of the things made of muckite are so because their shape requires
casting rather than pressing. So to produce an identical item in SS might
be plain impossible.

Nothing wrong with chrome plated steel for durability - provided the job
is done correctly. And for low volume, this would be vastly cheaper than
making new pressings for SS.

It's a relatively cheap process to reproduce Mazak castings using bronze
which doesn't suffer from acne like mazak. Still needs good chroming,
though.

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Old May 27th 07, 07:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Autolycus
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Classic Car Man wrote:
I'm looking to find a company that can manufacture replacement items
to
pattern in stainless steel instead of chrome and mazak.


I'm looking for bumpers, overriders, radiator, as well as small
brightwork strip.


Willing to travel anywhere in UK.


All help gratefully appreciated


Many of the things made of muckite are so because their shape requires
casting rather than pressing. So to produce an identical item in SS
might
be plain impossible.

Investment casting (aka lost wax) is possible in stainless, though, as
Dave says, brass or bronze is more common. The number of fake
Rolls-Royce mascots on ebay is testament to the ease of the process.


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Old May 29th 07, 07:44 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Rob
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Classic Car Man wrote:

I'm looking to find a company that can manufacture replacement items to
pattern in stainless steel instead of chrome and mazak.



I'm looking for bumpers, overriders, radiator, as well as small
brightwork strip.



Willing to travel anywhere in UK.



All help gratefully appreciated



Many of the things made of muckite are so because their shape requires
casting rather than pressing. So to produce an identical item in SS might
be plain impossible.

Nothing wrong with chrome plated steel for durability - provided the job
is done correctly. And for low volume, this would be vastly cheaper than
making new pressings for SS.

It's a relatively cheap process to reproduce Mazak castings using bronze
which doesn't suffer from acne like mazak. Still needs good chroming,
though.


Never liked SS on cars because of its preferential corrosion
characteristics.

Brass castings chrome plated are better, better still copper castings
chrome plated (one less step). I don't thing copper would be any softer
than mazak.
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Old May 29th 07, 10:59 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

In article ,
Rob wrote:
Never liked SS on cars because of its preferential corrosion
characteristics.


Eh? I've got lots of SS on my 20 odd year old car which lives outside and
there's no corrosion on it - at all.

Brass castings chrome plated are better, better still copper castings
chrome plated (one less step). I don't thing copper would be any softer
than mazak.


Do you know the cost of copper these days? ;-)

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Old May 29th 07, 06:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Mike G
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Rob wrote:
Never liked SS on cars because of its preferential corrosion
characteristics.


Eh? I've got lots of SS on my 20 odd year old car which lives outside and
there's no corrosion on it - at all.


Yup.Even if the rest of the car rots away, the bright trim remain near
perfect. :-)
AFAIC there's nothing to beat SS for bright trim. Never corrodes, and can
be repolished if it gets a little scuffed.
AFAIR virtually all the bright trim on our old Rovers is SS.
Mike.

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Old May 30th 07, 01:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Rob
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Rob wrote:

Never liked SS on cars because of its preferential corrosion
characteristics.



Eh? I've got lots of SS on my 20 odd year old car which lives outside and
there's no corrosion on it - at all.



Its not the SS which deteriorates, but the steel which corrodes, if the
SS comes into contact with it.


Brass castings chrome plated are better, better still copper castings
chrome plated (one less step). I don't thing copper would be any softer
than mazak.



Do you know the cost of copper these days? ;-)



They cut down power lines to keep up the supply. Just the other day
sections of the overhead cable went missing off the railway, caused
train delays.
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Old May 30th 07, 01:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic,uk.rec.cars.maintenance,uk.rec.cars.misc
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Replacing brightwork with Stainless Steel

In article ,
Rob wrote:
Never liked SS on cars because of its preferential corrosion
characteristics.


Eh? I've got lots of SS on my 20 odd year old car which lives outside
and there's no corrosion on it - at all.


Its not the SS which deteriorates, but the steel which corrodes, if the
SS comes into contact with it.


That applies to any dissimilar metals - including brass or chromed brass.
It should be electrically isolated from the steel.

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