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Stomberg CD175-2 carbs - off what?



 
 
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Old September 21st 05, 07:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Badger
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Default Stomberg CD175-2 carbs - off what?


"Alex" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Badger wrote:
I never saw a picture of them, or a post with a link, so I was simply
guessing. BTW, SD1's used them right up until 1981, Rangerovers used
them until the intro of EFI in the early 80's, so not just very early
rover v8's.

Non EFI versions of this engine were made till about '90, and all with
Strombergs. Usually found in things like ambulances.


A lot of the later carb versions went over to SU's though, not seen many
strombergs after early 80's Dave, at least not on a landrover product.
90's
and 110's went over to SU's, as did some of the last of the non-efi
rangies
and sd1's, the sd1's having the unreliable choke stepper-motors a-la
maestro! Not convinced about sherpa's/ldv's, worked on an ambulance that
had
su's but never seen one with strombergs - not seen that many either way,
could be the 2 I've actually seen the underbonnet of had been converrted
to
su's?


The Strombergs were usually fitted to the detuned spec engines, if
required for overseas work, MOD, special body builders etc etc. The
MOD spec'd twin strombergs on the v8's, along with restrictor plates
in the carbs, thus reducing the power output of the v8 to something
dreadfull.


That is only true for the early MOD spec 110 V8's, and some very early
130's. When the name changed from 110 to defender, the restrictors were
binned and SU's were fitted to all uk (inc. MOD spec) defender 110's. The
same time as the quoted power output increased to 134bhp.
Trust me, I've worked on a LOT of MOD V8 landrovers over the years ;-)
Badger.


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Old September 22nd 05, 08:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Alex
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Default Stomberg CD175-2 carbs - off what?

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:36:49 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
wrote:


"Alex" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Badger wrote:
I never saw a picture of them, or a post with a link, so I was simply
guessing. BTW, SD1's used them right up until 1981, Rangerovers used
them until the intro of EFI in the early 80's, so not just very early
rover v8's.

Non EFI versions of this engine were made till about '90, and all with
Strombergs. Usually found in things like ambulances.

A lot of the later carb versions went over to SU's though, not seen many
strombergs after early 80's Dave, at least not on a landrover product.
90's
and 110's went over to SU's, as did some of the last of the non-efi
rangies
and sd1's, the sd1's having the unreliable choke stepper-motors a-la
maestro! Not convinced about sherpa's/ldv's, worked on an ambulance that
had
su's but never seen one with strombergs - not seen that many either way,
could be the 2 I've actually seen the underbonnet of had been converrted
to
su's?


The Strombergs were usually fitted to the detuned spec engines, if
required for overseas work, MOD, special body builders etc etc. The
MOD spec'd twin strombergs on the v8's, along with restrictor plates
in the carbs, thus reducing the power output of the v8 to something
dreadfull.


That is only true for the early MOD spec 110 V8's, and some very early
130's. When the name changed from 110 to defender, the restrictors were
binned and SU's were fitted to all uk (inc. MOD spec) defender 110's. The
same time as the quoted power output increased to 134bhp.
Trust me, I've worked on a LOT of MOD V8 landrovers over the years ;-)
Badger.


I was referring in particular to the 101 v8 which was in production
from 1973 to 1978, which used exculsivly Strombergs on the 3.5 v8.

Alex
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Old September 22nd 05, 08:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Badger
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Default Stomberg CD175-2 carbs - off what?


"Alex" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:36:49 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
wrote:

The Strombergs were usually fitted to the detuned spec engines, if
required for overseas work, MOD, special body builders etc etc. The
MOD spec'd twin strombergs on the v8's, along with restrictor plates
in the carbs, thus reducing the power output of the v8 to something
dreadfull.


That is only true for the early MOD spec 110 V8's, and some very early
130's. When the name changed from 110 to defender, the restrictors were
binned and SU's were fitted to all uk (inc. MOD spec) defender 110's. The
same time as the quoted power output increased to 134bhp.
Trust me, I've worked on a LOT of MOD V8 landrovers over the years ;-)
Badger.


I was referring in particular to the 101 v8 which was in production
from 1973 to 1978, which used exculsivly Strombergs on the 3.5 v8.


Right. But that's not what I thought you meant, it sounded as if you were
saying that the MOD spec'd Strombergs on all their v8 landrovers. FWIW, not
many 101's had restrictors, in fact most were removed in service, if they
were ever fitted at all. The restrictors were originally fitted by landrover
to the 109 Stage 1 V8 as standard, as landrover felt the handling and
braking with a trailer especially weren't up to the power of the engine.
Badger.


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Old September 22nd 05, 09:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Erik Creyghton
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"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
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I was given a nice assortment of Triumph Vitesse bits recently. In the box
of carbs were a pair of CD175-2 Strombergs (usual Vitesse ones are CD150s).
I'll stick them on Ebay, but it would help to know what they're off. Any
ideas?
They have red labels on saying "emission control systems". Does that imply
US spec?
http://www.sos.bangor.ac.uk/~oss108/cd175s.jpg

As usual, any info gratefully received.


Most defenitly Triumph TR250 & TR6 US-specs.
The showed linkage proves the origin, there is one just like it sitting in
my garage.
:-)
Erik


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Old September 23rd 05, 11:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Alex
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Default Stomberg CD175-2 carbs - off what?



That is only true for the early MOD spec 110 V8's, and some very early
130's. When the name changed from 110 to defender, the restrictors were
binned and SU's were fitted to all uk (inc. MOD spec) defender 110's. The
same time as the quoted power output increased to 134bhp.
Trust me, I've worked on a LOT of MOD V8 landrovers over the years ;-)
Badger.


I was referring in particular to the 101 v8 which was in production
from 1973 to 1978, which used exculsivly Strombergs on the 3.5 v8.


Right. But that's not what I thought you meant, it sounded as if you were
saying that the MOD spec'd Strombergs on all their v8 landrovers. FWIW, not
many 101's had restrictors, in fact most were removed in service, if they
were ever fitted at all. The restrictors were originally fitted by landrover
to the 109 Stage 1 V8 as standard, as landrover felt the handling and
braking with a trailer especially weren't up to the power of the engine.
Badger.


Beg pardon, you're right that they didn't continue to spec the
strombergs. Certainly the 101's had the restrictors removed, most
while they were in service as the power output of the v8 was woeful
with them fitted. It wasn't a great deal better without them.

Alex
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Old September 24th 05, 08:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Badger
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Default Stomberg CD175-2 carbs - off what?


"Alex" wrote in message
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That is only true for the early MOD spec 110 V8's, and some very early
130's. When the name changed from 110 to defender, the restrictors were
binned and SU's were fitted to all uk (inc. MOD spec) defender 110's.
The
same time as the quoted power output increased to 134bhp.
Trust me, I've worked on a LOT of MOD V8 landrovers over the years ;-)
Badger.


I was referring in particular to the 101 v8 which was in production
from 1973 to 1978, which used exculsivly Strombergs on the 3.5 v8.


Right. But that's not what I thought you meant, it sounded as if you were
saying that the MOD spec'd Strombergs on all their v8 landrovers. FWIW,
not
many 101's had restrictors, in fact most were removed in service, if they
were ever fitted at all. The restrictors were originally fitted by
landrover
to the 109 Stage 1 V8 as standard, as landrover felt the handling and
braking with a trailer especially weren't up to the power of the engine.
Badger.


Beg pardon, you're right that they didn't continue to spec the
strombergs. Certainly the 101's had the restrictors removed, most
while they were in service as the power output of the v8 was woeful
with them fitted. It wasn't a great deal better without them.


True, probably something to do with the woefully inadequate 8.13 compression
ratio!
Badger.


 




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