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O/T SIP mig welder repair?



 
 
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Old August 1st 05, 09:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Willy Eckerslyke
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?

Slightly off topic, but you guys are more likely to know the answer than
anyone else...
My SIP Topmig Turbo 150 has just stopped working. Initially, I thought a
thermal cutout was operating as after using it on high power for a
while, the wire feed and arc stopped working, though the fan kept
running. After an hour or so's rest it would be OK. It did this for a
couple of days, but now doesn't want to play at all.
I've checked with a multimeter and the trigger is operating properly.
The machine has power as the cooling fan still runs and the light comes on.
Anyone had a similar problem?
All the electronic wizardry looks to be on a small PCB behind the wire
speed dial which looks easy to swap over, so unless a replacement is
silly money, I'm inclined to try that before paying for someone's time.
So anyone know where I could get one?
Or know of SIP's home page?
Google wasn't being very helpful here.
Thanks.
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Old August 1st 05, 10:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
AUSSIE BONGO
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?


"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
...
Slightly off topic, but you guys are more likely to know the answer than
anyone else...
My SIP Topmig Turbo 150 has just stopped working. Initially, I thought a
thermal cutout was operating as after using it on high power for a
while, the wire feed and arc stopped working, though the fan kept
running. After an hour or so's rest it would be OK. It did this for a
couple of days, but now doesn't want to play at all.
I've checked with a multimeter and the trigger is operating properly.
The machine has power as the cooling fan still runs and the light comes

on.
Anyone had a similar problem?
All the electronic wizardry looks to be on a small PCB behind the wire
speed dial which looks easy to swap over, so unless a replacement is
silly money, I'm inclined to try that before paying for someone's time.
So anyone know where I could get one?
Or know of SIP's home page?
Google wasn't being very helpful here.
Thanks.


is this the page you need????
http://www.siptools.co.uk/



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Old August 1st 05, 10:28 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Willy Eckerslyke
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?

aussie bongo wrote:

Or know of SIP's home page?


is this the page you need????
http://www.siptools.co.uk/


Unfortunately all the links go to Worldofpower so I don't think that's
SIP's own page, unless they're just a subsidiary. There is a phone
number for repairs though, so I'll give them a try.
Thanks for that.
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Old August 1st 05, 10:53 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Autolycus
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"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
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snip
Or know of SIP's home page?


http://www.sip-group.com/

Isn't it frustrating when, presumably with the manufacturer's
connivance, a retailer hijacks a maker's name, especially if they then
provide lousy service. I've been trying to get a reply out of falken
tyres for over a month, but their bozo suppliers, falkens.co.uk won't
answer emails.


--
Kevin Poole
**Use current month and year to reply (e.g. )***
Car Transport by Tiltbed Trailer - based near Derby

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Old August 1st 05, 11:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
David Billington
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?

I don't know the welder but a friend has a small MIG with 2 switches to
control 4 power levels and it appeared to stop working. After we spent
several hours checking the internals I realised that the power switches
effectively had a centre off, whether intentional in the design or not,
one had got knocked to the centre position and that did it. Put it back
to an appropriate setting and all was OK.

Willy Eckerslyke wrote:

Slightly off topic, but you guys are more likely to know the answer
than anyone else...
My SIP Topmig Turbo 150 has just stopped working. Initially, I thought
a thermal cutout was operating as after using it on high power for a
while, the wire feed and arc stopped working, though the fan kept
running. After an hour or so's rest it would be OK. It did this for a
couple of days, but now doesn't want to play at all.
I've checked with a multimeter and the trigger is operating properly.
The machine has power as the cooling fan still runs and the light
comes on.
Anyone had a similar problem?
All the electronic wizardry looks to be on a small PCB behind the wire
speed dial which looks easy to swap over, so unless a replacement is
silly money, I'm inclined to try that before paying for someone's time.
So anyone know where I could get one?
Or know of SIP's home page?
Google wasn't being very helpful here.
Thanks.



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Old August 1st 05, 11:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Willy Eckerslyke
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?

Autolycus wrote:

http://www.sip-group.com/


Brilliant thanks!

Isn't it frustrating when, presumably with the manufacturer's
connivance, a retailer hijacks a maker's name, especially if they then
provide lousy service.


Absolutely. Luckily it's not something I've come across all that often.
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Old August 1st 05, 11:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Willy Eckerslyke
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David Billington wrote:

I don't know the welder but a friend has a small MIG with 2 switches to
control 4 power levels and it appeared to stop working. After we spent
several hours checking the internals I realised that the power switches
effectively had a centre off, whether intentional in the design or not,
one had got knocked to the centre position and that did it. Put it back
to an appropriate setting and all was OK.


Thanks for the input. I had a good old fiddle about with it checking for
loose connections and playing with all the switches but didn't come up
with anything like that. I suspect a faulty thermal cutout as SIP's
website says it has one fitted - especially as the cooling fan still
runs, which would be logical if the machine thought it was too hot.

Interestingly, the Clarke 120E MIG I had before never once cut out,
despite not having a fan fitted.
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Old August 1st 05, 12:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Mike G
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"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
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Thanks for the input. I had a good old fiddle about with it checking for
loose connections and playing with all the switches but didn't come up
with anything like that. I suspect a faulty thermal cutout as SIP's
website says it has one fitted - especially as the cooling fan still
runs, which would be logical if the machine thought it was too hot.

Interestingly, the Clarke 120E MIG I had before never once cut out,
despite not having a fan fitted.


You should have kept it. :-)
My 120E gets used a lot. AFAIR I baught it in the late 80's. It's never
cutout, and apart from replacing the nozzles 2 or 3 times, has been
completely trouble free.
Mike.

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Old August 1st 05, 12:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Willy Eckerslyke
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?

Mike G wrote:

Interestingly, the Clarke 120E MIG I had before never once cut out,
despite not having a fan fitted.


You should have kept it. :-)
My 120E gets used a lot. AFAIR I baught it in the late 80's. It's never
cutout, and apart from replacing the nozzles 2 or 3 times, has been
completely trouble free.


Yup, mine was the same. I replaced the tube liner once when wire feed
had become a bit uneven, and discovered that running large reels of wire
instead of the little ones made the feed much smoother, but otherwise
had no complaints. But then I was offered the SIP at a price I couldn't
refuse so flogged the Clarke to a mate.
The SIP was a revelation! Immediately the quality of my welding (which
previously I'd been happy with) improved more than I'd have believed
possible. I'd been sceptical before when people on this group went on
about how much better professional grade welders were, but I'm afraid
it's quite true.
Or would be if the damned thing still worked!
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Old August 1st 05, 01:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cars.classic
Mike G
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Default O/T SIP mig welder repair?


"Willy Eckerslyke" wrote in message
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Mike G wrote:

Interestingly, the Clarke 120E MIG I had before never once cut out,
despite not having a fan fitted.


You should have kept it. :-)
My 120E gets used a lot. AFAIR I baught it in the late 80's. It's never
cutout, and apart from replacing the nozzles 2 or 3 times, has been
completely trouble free.


Yup, mine was the same. I replaced the tube liner once when wire feed
had become a bit uneven, and discovered that running large reels of wire
instead of the little ones made the feed much smoother, but otherwise
had no complaints. But then I was offered the SIP at a price I couldn't
refuse so flogged the Clarke to a mate.
The SIP was a revelation! Immediately the quality of my welding (which
previously I'd been happy with) improved more than I'd have believed
possible. I'd been sceptical before when people on this group went on
about how much better professional grade welders were, but I'm afraid
it's quite true.


Maybe I should try one.
Most of the time my welding is OK, but sometimes for some reason it's not as
good as I would like. Maybe it's not my fault. :-)
Mike.

 




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