For what its worth, I do 45,000 miles a year in a reasonably fast car and
consider speeding fines/tickets etc as a hazard of the job.
The two times I have had to appear in court for regarding speeding and have
just gone along to represent myself I managed to come away without a ban,
having claimed mitigating circumstances. The twice I have instructed
solicitors to put forward my mitigating circumstances I have received a ban
both times.
If I were you I would represent yourself, I believe if you are fairly
articulate your passionate plea and the fact that you are prepared to do
this yourself goes a long way in your favour and sounds so much more
convincing.
Good luck.


"Aaron Whiffin" wrote in message
...

Saturday, perfect weather, A38 dual carraigeway (Devon), mid afternoon

102 MPH in a 70 by speed camera.

I'm 25, 3 points (speeding SP30 with £30 fine about 6 months ago),
Vauxhall
Cav 1998 Auto

Mitigating circumstances: Self employed web designer, need transport to
meet
clients, it's my livelihood, without car I lose my business. Not only
that,
my business partner doesn't drive and would probably lose the business
too.
And I'm so so so so sorry )


Anyone care to make a guess to my punishment?

"ah" wrote in message
...
I was stopped at 135mph on M62 at 5.00am one morning, it was a very sunny
and clear morning virtually no cars on that stretch of road, one of those
days where you just want to enjoy being in harmony with your car. The
copper
eventually, after the usual safety checks, said "just get on your way,
take
it as a severe warning cos its a lovely car and if I do you you wont be
driving it for a long time and thats if you can afford the insurance when
you get your licence back!" Now thats a sensible attitude!

Of course speed kills, thats just a ridiculously stupid statement. If you
are walking along the pavement and bump into another walking pedestrian
its
unlikely you will get hurt, the same scenario but its Kelly Holmes coming
running around the corner you bump into and its likely you will get
knocked
over, step into the road and bump into a car doing just 20mph and its
going
to hurt alot more, the same car doing 50mph and you are likely to be dead.
Very obvious really isnt it.

But what actually causes most of the problems and deaths on the roads is
simply bad driving, that does include, but is no way limited to, driving
too
fast for the conditions or surroundings but it also includes realising you
are tired and need to stop for a while and many other different sceanrios
that will all cause death and destruction on our roads.

So in my opinion its down to better education of drivers.

I raced sidecar outfits, cars and rallied cars. Until I started racing I
was
a crap driver, albeit a fast crap driver, but then I became very aware of
how cars handle under certain conditions at speed and it improved my road
driving immensly.

Our current system of driving test should change and include much more
about
understanding how cars work, driving techniques, motorway driving, fast
driving, driving in different conditions inc night driving etc etc.

and a possible track day out (paid for by the testee) in some crapmobile £10
****ter to see exactly what can happen when you overcook things
at least it's safe and you can also brag to your mates that you can't drive
in a straight line without hitting the nearest bit of nothing and flipping
the car over



" dojj" wrote in message
...
got pulled on the M25
I "averaged" 140 mph on that journey
even the helicopter couldn't keep up, which is why I got a slap on the
wrist
and told "slow down sonny" as the copper drove off
it all depends on who you meet if you get a tug from plod, but the
camera's
just don't give a **** and will screw you as soon as you get a picture on
them

"Richard Kilpatrick" wrote in message
.. .
On 10/9/04 7:57 pm, in article
, "SteveH"
wrote:

102mph real world speed will have been close on 120mph on the speedo.
On
a dual carriageway this is likely to have been pretty damn dangerous.

Yep, 107mph average for me was 125 on the Marea's speedo. Bloody
lethal,
those little 1.6 estate cars...

I didn't even get prosecuted.

Richard (has been stopped at 140mph (indicated, flat out downhill in an
X1/9, so probably 110-115ish) on the M8 and not prosecuted either. One
policeman, Scotland ).

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i do break speed limits at times - the times when i know for sure there is
absolutely no danger of anybody else being involved if theres a mishap.
eg -
main roads - no other cars about and no up-coming junctions where there
might be an unsuspecting driver waiting to pull out thinking that the car
thats approaching is actually sticking to the limits

So 102 in perfect weather, on a straight dual carraigeway in normal traffic
all doing 80-110 (yes, everyone was going fast)

I know it's illegal and I deserve my punishment etc, but I think it was safe
....

If I were you I would represent yourself, I believe if you are fairly
articulate your passionate plea and the fact that you are prepared to do
this yourself goes a long way in your favour and sounds so much more
convincing.

Thanks - that's what I thought, I'll represent myself

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"Aaron Whiffin" wrote in message
...

Saturday, perfect weather, A38 dual carraigeway (Devon), mid afternoon

102 MPH in a 70 by speed camera.

I'm 25, 3 points (speeding SP30 with £30 fine about 6 months ago),
Vauxhall
Cav 1998 Auto

Mitigating circumstances: Self employed web designer, need transport to
meet
clients, it's my livelihood, without car I lose my business. Not only
that,
my business partner doesn't drive and would probably lose the business
too.
And I'm so so so so sorry )


Anyone care to make a guess to my punishment?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004441511,00.html

or

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004441567,00.html


" dojj" wrote in message
...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004441511,00.html

102 MPH in a 70 by speed camera.

I'm 25, 3 points (speeding SP30 with £30 fine about 6 months ago),
Vauxhall
Cav 1998 Auto

Court case today - here's the results:

Ban - none
Fine - £100
Points - 6
Costs - none

I'm happy with that

With 9 points now I can't speed - I think that was the court's reasoning ...

Aaron Whiffin wrote in message ...
102 MPH in a 70 by speed camera.
I'm 25, 3 points (speeding SP30 with £30 fine about 6 months ago),
Vauxhall
Cav 1998 Auto
Court case today - here's the results:
Ban - none
Fine - £100
Points - 6
Costs - none
I'm happy with that

I'll bet you are )

In what area did you attend court because if I have an uncontrollable urge
for speed, I want to be in your area

With 9 points now I can't speed - I think that was the court's reasoning
....

You can, and you probably will but you'll be trying a damn sight harder not
to get caught.

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