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			<title>Focus traction control light keeps coming on</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 10:28:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Will this damn Focus never stop going wrong? First there was the thoroughly 
annoying reversing light failure fiasco last year resulting in me clipping 
the garden wall with the back bumper and cracking it because I couldn't see 
where I was reversing in the dark and now the second thing to break in 12 
years has happened.

Popped round to The Gary's workshop a couple of weekends ago to take off...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Will this damn Focus never stop going wrong? First there was the thoroughly <br />
annoying reversing light failure fiasco last year resulting in me clipping <br />
the garden wall with the back bumper and cracking it because I couldn't see <br />
where I was reversing in the dark and now the second thing to break in 12 <br />
years has happened.<br />
<br />
Popped round to The Gary's workshop a couple of weekends ago to take off the <br />
front M&amp;S tyres and fit summer ones on his tyre changer in the hope that the <br />
winter weather has finally ended. Couldn't find any decent 205/50/16s at the <br />
council tip for the back end so we moved the 50 series Toyo CF1s which had <br />
been on the back to the front and fitted a pair of fairly decent tip sourced <br />
205/55/16 Kumhos to the rear. About 4mm tread left on them and online road <br />
tests seem to indicate they grip well enough wet or dry which I soon <br />
confirmed. Being on the back they won't affect the speedo or the fuel <br />
consumption so I really couldn't be arsed about the tiny difference in size. <br />
However a couple of days later I was leaving a friend's house and the <br />
traction control kicked in at 20 mph and stopped me dead in my tracks until <br />
I pressed the centre console button and switched it off. Thought no more <br />
about it but then it happened again a day or so later and several times <br />
since.<br />
<br />
Racking my brains I've now twigged it's the traction control system thinking <br />
that the bigger tyres on the back are rotating at a different speed to the <br />
front tyres and we must be sliding. The difference in radius is a mere 1cm <br />
or 3% which is barely more than the difference between brand new and <br />
completely bald tyres but it seems to be big enough to occasionally trigger <br />
the overly protective skid control system and cut the power completely in <br />
case the idiot driving is about to kill himself.<br />
<br />
Ok so I suppose this is not actually the car's fault and I can't really call <br />
it a failure and even more annoyingly the reversing light having been AWOL <br />
for a year has started working again so we're now back down to zero failures <br />
in 12 years which is frankly reprehensible and something Ford should be <br />
thoroughly ashamed of. How the hell do they expect to make any money from <br />
servicing and repairs to plough back into future car development if nothing <br />
ever breaks or even worse the things that do break then eventually fix <br />
themselves again?<br />
<br />
I thought self repairing technology was purely in the realms of sci-fi <br />
novels but apparently not. So I suppose I'd better haunt the tip for a while <br />
until I find a set of decent 50/16s to match the fronts or some 55/16s to <br />
match the rears and until then I'll have to manage by switching the TC <br />
button off every time I go out. God it's a hard life.<br />
-- <br />
Dave Baker <br />
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			<title>Renault Scenics?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 13:27:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I went over the auction today looking for a 7 seater. Was surprised to 
see Scenics going for as low as 6k on a 10 plate. Is there anything 
wrong with them or are they just a cheap motor?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I went over the auction today looking for a 7 seater. Was surprised to <br />
see Scenics going for as low as 6k on a 10 plate. Is there anything <br />
wrong with them or are they just a cheap motor?<br />
<br />
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			<title>Calling Disco experts ...</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 12:12:31 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Wife's TD5 on 02 plate, has had a few issues with the battery going flat. 
Yesterday, she went out to it - fortunately on the drive - turned the key, 
and nothing. It had been running fine shortly before. I went out with my 
meter, and the battery was completely dead. It looks an old battery, so I 
figured that it had just finally died. I had one do exactly the same a few 
years back on a Focus....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Wife's TD5 on 02 plate, has had a few issues with the battery going flat. <br />
Yesterday, she went out to it - fortunately on the drive - turned the key, <br />
and nothing. It had been running fine shortly before. I went out with my <br />
meter, and the battery was completely dead. It looks an old battery, so I <br />
figured that it had just finally died. I had one do exactly the same a few <br />
years back on a Focus. No warning. Just stopped.<br />
<br />
So today, she went and got a nice shiny new one from Halfords. I put it in <br />
place, hooked on the positive terminal, then went for it with the negative <br />
terminal. There was a bloody great flash, and the engine started cranking, <br />
so I whipped it back off again. Quick repeat, same thing. So I got her to <br />
come out with the key, figuring that it was perhaps jammed in mesh and <br />
holding the main solenoid contacts in, and that if the engine was started, <br />
it would 'fling out' and all would be well. She turned it on. I dumped the <br />
terminal on and it cranked, and started immediately, After a few seconds of <br />
it running and sounding just fine - no whines or graunches or other naughty <br />
noises - I got her to turn it back off, fully expecting all to now be well. <br />
But no ...<br />
<br />
The engine stopped running for sure - well, under its own steam anyway - but <br />
there was the bloody starter motor cranking away still. I have since popped <br />
the starter relay (I'm assuming it's the big yellow one marked on the lid <br />
diagram as &quot;SM&quot;) and still the starter runs as soon as the battery is <br />
connected. This has got to be a mechanical starter motor issue, right ? <br />
Something that's 'fixable' on one of them, or is the starter motor a <br />
sealed-for-life sort of thing ...?<br />
<br />
Arfa <br />
<br />
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			<title>L-o-t-u-s again - will I never learn?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 19:50:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi All, 

Well, my heart has triumphed over my head once again and I've bought a Lotus Elise. 

IMO the '02 model' looks very pretty in Ardent Red. 

Well, the battery warning light came on before I got it home! 

Despite charging the battery overnight it let me down on the 2nd day. 
Luckily I had stopped for fuel where the discount place I get my batteries is around the back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi All, <br />
<br />
Well, my heart has triumphed over my head once again and I've bought a Lotus Elise. <br />
<br />
IMO the '02 model' looks very pretty in Ardent Red. <br />
<br />
Well, the battery warning light came on before I got it home! <br />
<br />
Despite charging the battery overnight it let me down on the 2nd day. <br />
Luckily I had stopped for fuel where the discount place I get my batteries is around the back. <br />
<br />
But health &amp; safety rules dictated that the technician couldn't fit the battery while at the pumps, <br />
although I didn't mind as he helped me push the car the short distance to where it was ok. <br />
<br />
So, the new battery has allowed me to play with my new toy for another day, but I must sort it. <br />
<br />
So, my questions are:- <br />
<br />
1)  Do I have to remove the undertray to fit a new alternator drive belt (which I've bought). <br />
     or is it best done by removing the rear offside wheel? <br />
<br />
  How does the wheel arch liner come off? <br />
<br />
2)  Does anyone know the best source of a manual - is there a genuine Lotus service manual, or is the Haynes Enthusiast Guide any good? <br />
<br />
Thanks. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[trickymicky[_2_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Growly gearbox...</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:20:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[....or maybe diff.


Our 1997 1.9 TD Fiat Ducato based motorhome transmission is rather "growly"
under load. On overrun or in neutral, all the noise disappears.

I rather suspect this falls under the category of "not a good thing" but
the question is, "how bad a thing" is this?

Is it a case of]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>....or maybe diff.<br />
<br />
<br />
Our 1997 1.9 TD Fiat Ducato based motorhome transmission is rather &quot;growly&quot;<br />
under load. On overrun or in neutral, all the noise disappears.<br />
<br />
I rather suspect this falls under the category of &quot;not a good thing&quot; but<br />
the question is, &quot;how bad a thing&quot; is this?<br />
<br />
Is it a case of <br />
<br />
A) They all do that sir<br />
B) it's common in older vans but doesn't mean imminent self immolation. You<br />
could try some different oil/oil treatment product.<br />
or<br />
C) Prepare yourself for a gearbox rebuild.<br />
<br />
Which is it?<br />
<br />
Tim<br />
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			<dc:creator>Tim+</dc:creator>
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			<title>what voltage do you expect from cig lighter? 12 or 14v?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 16:55:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>hi there, using a voltmeter logger i have taken voltage measurements from both the cig lighter and the accessory socket. for a kia they give 12.1-12.5v when engine is on or off.  while engine is running if you turn on headlamps or fan etc, momentarily it will spike up to 13.8 and then go back to 12..5. i guess the alternator might be a smart type which disengages with a clutch if not needed.

on...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div> hi there, using a voltmeter logger i have taken voltage measurements from both the cig lighter and the accessory socket. for a kia they give 12.1-12.5v when engine is on or off.  while engine is running if you turn on headlamps or fan etc, momentarily it will spike up to 13.8 and then go back to 12..5. i guess the alternator might be a smart type which disengages with a clutch if not needed.<br />
<br />
on other cars i tested this on ( e.g. ford, peugeot) i found that with car engine is off you get 12.5, with car on you get a steady 14-14.1v  , regardless of if you turn on headlamps etc.<br />
<br />
i suspect that certain electronic accessories  meant for plugging into the cig outlet might expect 14v if they are intended to work with engine running, and might not work as intended with the pure 12v. i am finding this issue with a navigator which has a internal 12v battery which is charged from the accessory socket.<br />
<br />
anyone else observe this? thanks<br />
K<br />
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			<title>Master Cylinder Repair Kit</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 09:27:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi all
Anyone know where I can find a master cylinder repair kit for a 1995 corsa 
b?
Ive googled till me fingers bleed but have drawn a blank
Cheers
Trev</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi all<br />
Anyone know where I can find a master cylinder repair kit for a 1995 corsa <br />
b?<br />
Ive googled till me fingers bleed but have drawn a blank<br />
Cheers<br />
Trev <br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator>Trev</dc:creator>
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			<title>Are third party brake switches for VW group vehicles all crap?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 15:09:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I do know how to replace them...

 
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1158315-DIY-Installing-a-new-brake-light-switch-%28without-breaking-it!%29

But, I've seen poor results[1] from these alternatives

  http://www.eurocarparts.com/search/464440090/p/Car-Parts

and]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I do know how to replace them...<br />
<br />
 <br />
<a href="http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?1158315-DIY-Installing-a-new-brake-light-switch-%28without-breaking-it!%29" target="_blank">http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...reaking-it!%29</a><br />
<br />
But, I've seen poor results[1] from these alternatives<br />
<br />
  <a href="http://www.eurocarparts.com/search/464440090/p/Car-Parts" target="_blank">http://www.eurocarparts.com/search/4...90/p/Car-Parts</a><br />
<br />
and<br />
<br />
  <a href="http://www.vwsonline.co.uk/car_parts_bristol/1j0-945-511d.html" target="_blank">http://www.vwsonline.co.uk/car_parts...-945-511d.html</a><br />
<br />
[1] either brake lights stuck on, or lights completely non functional.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
So me third purchase, VW original?<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Adrian C<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian C[_2_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Citroen Picasso 55 reg - vibrations</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 08:00:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi everyone,

Just after a quick bit of advice please and guidence,

My car - citreon picasso 55 reg, has started vibrating/juddering when using 
first gear to pull away.
It doesnt do it on all the other 4 gears.

If i put the gas right down this seem to cure the judder so im thinking 
perhaps more on the lines of some gas valve or something like that but cant</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone,<br />
<br />
Just after a quick bit of advice please and guidence,<br />
<br />
My car - citreon picasso 55 reg, has started vibrating/juddering when using <br />
first gear to pull away.<br />
It doesnt do it on all the other 4 gears.<br />
<br />
If i put the gas right down this seem to cure the judder so im thinking <br />
perhaps more on the lines of some gas valve or something like that but cant <br />
be sure?   just wanted an idea before i look at taking it to a garage and <br />
getting stitched up!<br />
<br />
Any help most appriciated.<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
Peter <br />
<br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator>Peter Jenkins</dc:creator>
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			<title>1.2 Corsa SXi 53 plate clock lights</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 16:04:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The display above the radio & central air vents should show clock, 
temperature, and the radio settings.

For several months it has only been half illuminated - so one side was 
virtually invisible - presumably there are two lamps behind it and one 
had failed.

Now nothing is visible so presumably the other lamp has failed.

How easy is it to get the assembly apart to replace the bulbs?  Is it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The display above the radio &amp; central air vents should show clock, <br />
temperature, and the radio settings.<br />
<br />
For several months it has only been half illuminated - so one side was <br />
virtually invisible - presumably there are two lamps behind it and one <br />
had failed.<br />
<br />
Now nothing is visible so presumably the other lamp has failed.<br />
<br />
How easy is it to get the assembly apart to replace the bulbs?  Is it <br />
practical for a competent DIY person?<br />
<br />
Thanks ...<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Graham J<br />
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			<dc:creator>Graham J</dc:creator>
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			<title>TORX size</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 14:26:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>What size TORX driver is needed to remove the rear screen washer outlet / light module on a 2004 Focus hatchback?

Thanks</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>What size TORX driver is needed to remove the rear screen washer outlet / light module on a 2004 Focus hatchback?<br />
<br />
Thanks  <br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alt Beer[_2_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Weep on power steering pressure hose</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 22:19:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>mk4 golf 1.6 8v 99 auto

I have had a weep on the high pressure power steering line from pump to rack 
for a while now not gotten any worse but I should fix it before it worsens 
and I run the pump dry causing more pain to my wallet. Can I use anything to 
patch this pipe or is it best to replace ?

I was hoping to put a patch on it of some sorts ? as vw quoted me £137 for 
the pipe.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>mk4 golf 1.6 8v 99 auto<br />
<br />
I have had a weep on the high pressure power steering line from pump to rack <br />
for a while now not gotten any worse but I should fix it before it worsens <br />
and I run the pump dry causing more pain to my wallet. Can I use anything to <br />
patch this pipe or is it best to replace ?<br />
<br />
I was hoping to put a patch on it of some sorts ? as vw quoted me £137 for <br />
the pipe.<br />
<br />
Its such a minute weep and i don't even need to top the pas fluid up. I <br />
check it often but only top it up every 4 months or so. So I just want to <br />
patch it if it won't upset the mot guy who noted it down as an advisory, <br />
that said maybe best to replace the pipe. But just wondering whats involved <br />
with that ? <br />
<br />
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff[_10_]]]></dc:creator>
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			<title>Weep on power steering pressure hose</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 22:19:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>mk4 golf 1.6 8v 99 auto

I have had a weep on the high pressure power steering line from pump to rack 
for a while now not gotten any worse but I should fix it before it worsens 
and I run the pump dry causing more pain to my wallet. Can I use anything to 
patch this pipe or is it best to replace ?

I was hoping to put a patch on it of some sorts ? as vw quoted me £137 for 
the pipe.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>mk4 golf 1.6 8v 99 auto<br />
<br />
I have had a weep on the high pressure power steering line from pump to rack <br />
for a while now not gotten any worse but I should fix it before it worsens <br />
and I run the pump dry causing more pain to my wallet. Can I use anything to <br />
patch this pipe or is it best to replace ?<br />
<br />
I was hoping to put a patch on it of some sorts ? as vw quoted me £137 for <br />
the pipe.<br />
<br />
Its such a minute weep and i don't even need to top the pas fluid up. I <br />
check it often but only top it up every 4 months or so. So I just want to <br />
patch it if it won't upset the mot guy who noted it down as an advisory, <br />
that said maybe best to replace the pipe. But just wondering whats involved <br />
with that ? <br />
<br />
</div>

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			<title>Brake/Clutch DOT4 fluid... OK to use after 3 years sat in garage?</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 19:12:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi all,

3 years ago, I bought a 5 litre container of DOT4 brake fluid. I changed 
the brake/clutch fluid on my then car, a Pug 206.

Unsurprisingly enough, I had over 2.5Litres left. I left this in the 
garage. The lid was screwed tightly on but of course the silver 
foil/paper disc has been removed.

I now have a VW Golf MKIV estate that I would like to change the</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi all,<br />
<br />
3 years ago, I bought a 5 litre container of DOT4 brake fluid. I changed <br />
the brake/clutch fluid on my then car, a Pug 206.<br />
<br />
Unsurprisingly enough, I had over 2.5Litres left. I left this in the <br />
garage. The lid was screwed tightly on but of course the silver <br />
foil/paper disc has been removed.<br />
<br />
I now have a VW Golf MKIV estate that I would like to change the <br />
brake/clutch fluid on.<br />
<br />
Now can I use the DOT4 fluid thats been stored in my garage undisturbed <br />
for 3 years or must I use a new fresh bottle of DOT4 fluid?<br />
<br />
Looking forward to your replies,<br />
<br />
Stephen.<br />
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			<title>London Congestion Charge</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 07:04:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've heard the scheme is going to be expanded, and that retail outlets are not going to take payment for the charge shortly. Have been doing a bit of digging and found you can pay the same rate on any day on a website called http://paythelondoncongestioncharge.co.uk. You can pay many days into the future too, should avoid any of those penalties. .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've heard the scheme is going to be expanded, and that retail outlets are not going to take payment for the charge shortly. Have been doing a bit of digging and found you can pay the same rate on any day on a website called <a href="http://paythelondoncongestioncharge.co.uk" target="_blank">http://paythelondoncongestioncharge.co.uk</a>. You can pay many days into the future too, should avoid any of those penalties. .<br />
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